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elliot
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Posted 5/10/2006 9:29 AM (GMT -5)

"Promel - World's First Drug to Reverse Grey Hair"

http://www.rapidnewswire.com/greyhair.htm

RapidNewsWire.com
World's First Drug to Reverse Grey Hair
April 17, 2006

Researchers at the French company Loreal have made a breakthrough discovery that will lead to a new treatment for gray hair. The condition that 100% of all humans will suffer from is now reversible, thanks to the discovery of malfunctioning hair cells known as melanocytes. The team has also identified two genes which determine whether a person's hair will lose its color and at what point in life, which all has resulted in the promotion of a new drug.

The new drug that will be called “Promel” will reactivate dormant melanocyte cells to their original state and the hair will return to it’s original color. The drug to be taken once daily should begin to work in about 3 to 5 weeks, but because hair grows slowly, about 5” per year, the average person will not see noticeable results for 2 to 4 months.

The average male starts to see gray hair by the time they are 30 and females usually start around the age of 35. On average most people are about 50% gray by the time they are 50, but there are various reasons why a person can go grey early, including medical conditions like A B-12 deficiency, a thyroid imbalance, anemia, along with many other conditions that can cause premature graying.

Recently there is also been evidence that smokers are 4 times more likely to go gray prematurely. The new drug is believed to be 85% effective and will be introduced in parts of Europe first, and later in the US in the first half of 2007.April 17, 06“This is the first major advancement in the field of anti-aging therapy, and the most exciting and visible use of such a product”

BartSimpson
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Posted 5/10/2006 1:45 PM (GMT -5)

He have read about Promel, but we can't get confirmation if this is not a hoax.

PASSABOX
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Posted 5/14/2006 10:08 PM (GMT -5)

Hello everybody.

Have tried the Recouleur formula fore more than 90 days and it did not work for me.

6 years ago I heard about the benefits of flaxseed and started to take it, by grinding it in the blender and mix with milk and chocolate in the morning. The result for the graying hair was almost nothing but I still take it today due to other benefits for hair health, digestion, fiber, anticancer and etc.

Will try the Bao Saka root if I can find it in my country, Brazil, and will keep you posted.

Regards to you all

Passabox

Post Edited (PASSABOX) : 5/16/2006 8:09:03 AM (GMT-4)

BartSimpson
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Posted 5/15/2006 9:45 AM (GMT -5)

PASSABOX i'm Brazilian too! From Florianopolis.

If you can find Bao Sako, please tell me where you found it.

-Isn't Bao Sako the name of the poster and krachi the herb? - mod

Bao Saka
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Posted 5/15/2006 11:13 AM (GMT -5)

BartSimpson said...
PASSABOX i'm Brazilian too! From Florianopolis.

If you can find Bao Sako, please tell me where you found it.

-Isn't Bao Sako the name of the poster and krachi the herb? - mod

BartSimpson, You're right. Bao Saka is the name of the poster and Krachai is the herb that can help your hair back to its original colour.

I hope a lot of people got krachai and having used it and now see something change in their hair (not only hair but a lot of good stuffs for body).

Please post the result here about Bao Saka's method.

BartSimpson
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Posted 5/15/2006 12:26 PM (GMT -5)

Bao Saka

Is this black galingale good? Or does it have to be the powder?

Do I need to apply it topically or can I just take this pills?

https://www.thailandunique.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=58&products_id=218

Thanks!!

PASSABOX
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Posted 5/15/2006 5:35 PM (GMT -5)

BartSimpson,

The similar root we have in Brazil is ginger (gengibre), but think that maybe it does not work because as mentioned by Bao Saka, you have diferent types of roots and soils.

Also, never heard any comments about this benefit from ginger.

As I live in Sao Paulo, I´ll try to find the black krashai in the oriental district in town called Liberdade as well to get some information. Keep you posted.

Post Edited (PASSABOX) : 5/15/2006 5:41:08 PM (GMT-4)

BartSimpson
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Posted 5/15/2006 7:23 PM (GMT -5)

thanks PASSABOX!

Now if anyone already in the treatment could post their testimonial, we would appreciate. This would lead us to the right direction.

Bao Saka
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Posted 5/16/2006 11:15 AM (GMT -5)

BartSimpson said...
Bao Saka

Is this black galingale good? Or does it have to be the powder?

Do I need to apply it topically or can I just take this pills?

https://www.thailandunique.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=58&products_id=218

Thanks!!

I think I like the one that I can see it's real, because in the ginger family, there are different types of ginger. It's really good. Read my old posts. It's written in the Traditional Medicine Book. Now, if you search the web, in the term of sex life Thai said it's Thai Viagra. It benefits a lot of different things, not only for the hair. If you use the tea-like (in the small pack) or pills, I think it will take very long time to reach your expectation. But, if you use like drink, it will give you the result within 2-3 week time. I use it daily, I feel great, not tired, no back pain. Just called my brother to send me another 40lbs of dry ones, it will last me for years. If you guys want it, I can share. Bao Saka.

reverse
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Posted 5/16/2006 11:16 AM (GMT -5)

Been doing the Bao Saka experiment for a week now. Nothing yet to post. I plan to do it for a month or so. I will let everyone know of any results. I have tried almost everything else so why not this?

Jinxsie
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Posted 5/16/2006 12:06 PM (GMT -5)

Just discovered this forum and the many interesting issues and debates on here about reversing grey hair. While I know that the main focus here is in getting at the cause and reversing it I have a conundrum which someone may be able to shed some light on.

I am 50 and have been going grey since 28 or so. For the last 15 years I have used a 'progressive hair dye' as they are called. The one I have used is called Restoria cream here in the UK. This has covered my gray pretty well. Suddenly 2 months ago it pretty much stopped working. I increased the application to daily instead of alternate days but nothing much. I have changed products to Grecian to see if that has any effect. The best I can get is a blondish reddish hue instead of the medium/ dark brown I got before. Also when I wash my hair I get brown water. Yuk!

My theory - yet to be proven - is that bismuth citrate, which is now used in these products in Europe instead of lead acetate (because of a lead poisoning scare I think), doesn't work in the same way. I think lead acetate is still used in the US but maybe not Canada. My suspicion is that bismuth citrate doesn't oxidise as much on the surface of the hair and/or doesn't penetrate to the cortex of the hair as much and that is what is causing the problem.

Some of you guys seem to know a lot about chemistry....any views as to what is going on? Thanks!

BartSimpson
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Posted 5/17/2006 9:31 AM (GMT -5)

reverse

what did you get? Powder Kashai? Pills? Topical? What doses?

Please post your regimen

reverse
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Posted 5/18/2006 6:45 PM (GMT -5)

I found some of this root at the Asian Market. It was frozen and prepackaged. I do what Bao Saka said to do. I blend it in a blender with water and drink 3 tall glasses per day -- I even drink the solid bits of sediment at the bottom of the drink. As for the Black or White Krachi, there was only one kind (I believe it is the white) at the market. I asked for Black but no one seemed to know what I meant. It was said in prior posts that the black was only considered black because of the inside of the root not the outside. The inside of the root is white. My original hair color is light/medium brown so according to the Bao Saka method, I should be fine. Either way, I'm just looking to see any repigmentation of my hair.

As of right now, nothing to mention. The stuff is cheap to buy so I will continue to try this experiment for a little while longer. If Bao Saka's claims are true, I will have NO PROBLEM donating something to his kid's college fund. I have tried Melancor, Recouleur, Brewer's Yeast, diets with a high vitamin B intake, extra copper, wheat germ smoothies, etc… and no results. I do hope Bao Saka's method works.

Bao Saka, did you actually regain pigmentation of you hair color by taking this root of have you just all together delayed the graying process by taking this root?

PASSABOX
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Posted 5/18/2006 9:28 PM (GMT -5)

reverse,

are you sure that the root is "krashai"?
in my country, brazil, we have the same family root ginger, but don't think it has the same property. as said, will check the asian market this weekend.

for the time being, found this site but in danish where they sell pills:

http://healing-and-herbs.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=51&osCsid=d9e2031cca825e81274319653df78aad

Bao Saka
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Posted 5/19/2006 2:06 PM (GMT -5)

By taking this Kasai, you will regain pigmentation of your hair, it does not mean that to delay the graying process, you will see its dark color from the root. I would like to show you guys the photo of my neighbor who is 67 years old with all gray hair. Now he is so happy because his hair is back to its color but not black due to the use of white kasai, it's like-brown. It looks so nice because he does not need to hilight it. You do not need to eat or drink the sediment, just water it's O.K, if you leave it for a bit long, you will see the white stuff on the bottom, that's do not need to drink too, it's nothing. That's why I recommend to leave that ground kasai in the big jug and/or filter it later. Thanks for your kindness and your consideration upon my kids. Remember, the more you drink, the faster you will see the result. This drink is much better than commercial pop drink. With 1/4 lb of kasai, you can add 2 litres of water, up to you who like thick or thin, < 2litres or > 2litres. I am waiting for my Magic Bullet blender from eBay, will use it to grind my kasai, that's why I am late night to check my mail.

Wish you a very happy expectation!

Bao Saka

reverse said...
I found some of this root at the Asian Market. It was frozen and prepackaged. I do what Bao Saka said to do. I blend it in a blender with water and drink 3 tall glasses per day -- I even drink the solid bits of sediment at the bottom of the drink. As for the Black or White Krachi, there was only one kind (I believe it is the white) at the market. I asked for Black but no one seemed to know what I meant. It was said in prior posts that the black was only considered black because of the inside of the root not the outside. The inside of the root is white. My original hair color is light/medium brown so according to the Bao Saka method, I should be fine. Either way, I'm just looking to see any repigmentation of my hair.

As of right now, nothing to mention. The stuff is cheap to buy so I will continue to try this experiment for a little while longer. If Bao Saka's claims are true, I will have NO PROBLEM donating something to his kid's college fund. I have tried Melancor, Recouleur, Brewer's Yeast, diets with a high vitamin B intake, extra copper, wheat germ smoothies, etc… and no results. I do hope Bao Saka's method works.

Bao Saka, did you actually regain pigmentation of you hair color by taking this root of have you just all together delayed the graying process by taking this root?

reverse
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Posted 5/19/2006 2:08 PM (GMT -5)

No I am not entirely sure. What I have looks like the picture that was submitted in a prior post that Bao Saka said was it. Someone posted a pic and what I have looks exactly like that - kind of like crab claw clusters. If I do have the wrong stuff I want to find the right stuff soon. All the package says is: Frozen Rhizome Whole (spice). If you know I have the wrong stuff please let me know.

PASSABOX
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Posted 5/19/2006 8:07 PM (GMT -5)

Went to the asian market here in Sao Paulo this afternoon to learn that over here we only have the regular ginger.
Asked some orientals if they ever heard or saw any type of brown or black ginger like, but the answer was no.
One oriental shop owner mentioned to me that there are not other roots here because there is no demand for it.
So, lost my hope to find it down here. Anyway, bought some ginger and will take it for a month the way Bao Saba explained, just to check.
By the way Bao Saka, is there any way for you to send the root to us or some seeds??

Post Edited (PASSABOX) : 5/19/2006 8:40:45 PM (GMT-4)

greyhairvictim1
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Posted 5/19/2006 8:09 PM (GMT -5)

Hi Bao Saka,

Can you tell whether your method works on facial hair such as beard and mustache also?

Thanks

BartSimpson
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Posted 5/22/2006 10:45 AM (GMT -5)

Bao Saka, do you know any online store that sells it?

reverse
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Posted 5/22/2006 10:47 AM (GMT -5)

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Bao Saka,

Here is a picture of what I was told is krachai. Is this the stuff I need?

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greyhairvictim1
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Posted 5/22/2006 10:49 AM (GMT -5)

In January 2005 someone posted the following post in this thread (it is on the first page, but I have copied it below). It talks about taking 9 of the brewer's yeast. Can anyone tell what it means by "8 of the brewer's yeast"? Is it recommedning 8 different types of brewers yeast or does it just refer to the brewers yeast you get from manufacturers like Twinlab etc?

Thanks. I will appreciate any insight.

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One great though to remove grey hair would be to use the following nutrients:

smhair 1. Pantothenic acid
2. PABA
3. Brewer's yeast

Take the recommended dosage of the PABA and the pantothenic acid and take 8 of the brewer's yeast.

Take them all daily! Watch what happens to your roots in a couple of months.

Hope this works for you.

Let me know!

Dennis James
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Bao Saka
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Posted 5/22/2006 10:56 AM (GMT -5)

As I have mentioned, you will see the slightly different roots or rhizomes due to the soil and weather or the care of the farmers. Some will grow very well, some will have long fingers, some will have shorter ones, some will have none. Do not worry, please! If the store owner told you guys that it was Kasai or Krachai or Ngai Bun, then trust them. Please follow my posts! I repeat: The white one, you will see inside white, the black one, you will see inside black. The taste between 2 galingales is very small different. It can be found in the region (only), not the whole country, some people will know, but some will not. The people in my region call this galingale as " King Dum", that means BLACK GINGER (easy for them to use or call). They do plant just for medication only, mostly individual.
As for Reverse: I think you got the right one. I mentioned about pic of my neighbor who's just made his hair back to its color using my method.
As for PASSABOX: I do not think that they grow in your country. This galingale can be found only in Laos and Thailand. I can send it to you but not the fresh one due to the law. I grow some in my backyard now.
As for Greyhairvictim1: It can work on beard and mustache because it works on hair.
You may drink Kasai juice or water 2-4 glasses/day. I use 1 sp of dry Kasai that I grind it/ 2 litres of water.You may make your own black Kasai wine or you may add Kasai into liquor. Bao Saka experiment works and only one way that you can use herb from your backyard to become your golden medicine. Remember, not only for hair!. I do not like the commercial product, it can contain more than the item I need. Please let me know the result you get after using 2-3 weeks. Good luck to all!
Bao Saka

BartSimpson
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Posted 5/22/2006 1:22 PM (GMT -5)

okay... i will try to find online some seeds, will keep u guys updated

PASSABOX
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Posted 5/22/2006 5:54 PM (GMT -5)

Bao Saka,
thanks for your explanations.
can you send some seeds also?
how do we handle for you to post?

Reverse,
could you send a larger picture?
where are you from?

rgds to you all.

flowergirl
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Posted 5/23/2006 3:24 PM (GMT -5)

have been following this thread for a while now, and had to log on just to say, bao saka seems to be having a laugh with all of you. especially when he used the "king dum" reference...

whereas the promel from l'oreal sounds like a real thing that will come out sometime soon.

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