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Bao Saka
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Posted 5/23/2006 3:25 PM (GMT -5)

If I have seeds, then I can send them to you to grow by yourself. But I've never seen the seed of galingale or ginger. The young leaves are good for cooking too, haha. I cannot send the fresh one, only the dry one and it must be chopped in pieces ( this is an explanation from my brother) or parcel will not be allowed to send at all. If we use seeds, then it will take a long time to grow, here in Canada, it's impossible, We have warm weather from June to september only, galingale cannot survive in winter. 2 lbs of dry galingale will last for long time, at least 6 months. At that time you will see no gray hair any more.

Regards,

Bao Saka.

PASSABOX said...
Bao Saka,
thanks for your explanations.
can you send some seeds also?
how do we handle for you to post?

Reverse,
could you send a larger picture?
where are you from?

rgds to you all.

zorba990
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Posted 5/23/2006 3:26 PM (GMT -5)

Here is a link to Black Galingale wine
http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/10909738/Black_Galingale_Wine_For_Sexuality.html

When using imported herbal products, though, it is wise to be cautious, since some recent reports of metal toxicity (due to the soil they are grown in) have been reported.

It looks like this herb has properties similar to Ho Shou Wu (Fo-Ti).

Bao Saka
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Posted 5/24/2006 11:29 AM (GMT -5)

I do not have any laugh, I am quite happy that the ones who follow my method will get very good benefit in their health and their hair. The word "King Dum" means the language the regional people use to communicate between themselves, they mean BLACK GALINGALE ( Kasai Dum): black means dum, Galingale means king. I do not mind if you use promel, that's your choice.

flowergirl said...
have been following this thread for a while now, and had to log on just to say, bao saka seems to be having a laugh with all of you. especially when he used the "king dum" reference...

whereas the promel from l'oreal sounds like a real thing that will come out sometime soon.

zorba990
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Posted 5/24/2006 11:31 AM (GMT -5)

Although DMAE-H3 has worked for me, I thought you guys might want to see another option:

http://www.lipoxidil.com/site/graying.php

reverse
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Date Joined May 2006
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Posted 5/24/2006 11:31 AM (GMT -5)

I am from the USA. I will try to send a larger pic but that was how it was attached. Still doing this experiment (over 2 weeks now) and nothing.

about the Promeal product from L'oreal, you should check prior posts. Another member was told no such product exists when he/she asked L'oreal about the product. The member posted L'oreal's response. Also, there is no mention about this product on their official website. The only source that mentions Promeal is Rapid Newswire. I queried Rapid Newswire about the source(s) used to get the article about Promeal -- they never responded :(

reverse
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Posted 5/24/2006 11:32 AM (GMT -5)

here is the label on the package. i hope you can see it. i don't know how to make either pic larger

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b4its2late
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Posted 5/24/2006 2:38 PM (GMT -5)

I have been eating fresh Krachai (white Krachai) for a week - no change yet.

Fresh white Krachai is available in every Thai "supermarket" in London. It definitely gives me loads of energy and seems to send blood up to the head!

I have not found a source of Black Krachai (Krachai Dam) in the UK - it is only available as pills or as Black Galingale Wine.

Bao Sako seems quite genuine to me.

gotsomegray
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Posted 5/25/2006 10:08 AM (GMT -5)

about the response from L'Oreal on Promel, I wouldn't expect anyone in L'Oreal's customer service department to have information on products that haven't even been released yet. That doesn't mean it's not faulty information, but I don't think that disputes it yet either.

I may try Bao Saka's method sometime soon. I think that he is genuine also. If it works for even one person on here then I give him credit.

flowergirl
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Posted 5/25/2006 10:11 AM (GMT -5)

ok, am waiting to hear your news, all who are trying the bao saka method.

did anyone try the bimatoprost? aussiedavid you were gonna try, any news?

island808
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Posted 5/25/2006 2:03 PM (GMT -5)

Bao Saka, Early on you requested that, in exchange for your info on kasai, people might decide to contribute to your son's education fund. If kasai is as excellent and effective as you claim, seems to me you are positioned to make big money importing and selling this herb in the states; maybe bring in a lot more cash than you will receive as contributions you've requested. Are you thinking about this idea? Is this possibly a business arrangement you could work out with Life Extension Foundation? I suspect that many of us would prefer to purchase your product, rather than waste a lot of time and energy wandering around on the internet or in Asian groceries searching for this apparently unusual black kasai.

Bao Saka
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Posted 5/26/2006 11:09 AM (GMT -5)

I think Black Kasai can be found in the Asian market in North America, but none of you found it, I am sad. I know it's not easy for you to get the Real Black Galingale. If anyone has business plan, I want to hear from. Just a phone call, I can get this galingale from the source. I don't think so that I will become rich from my formula using this herb. Thank you for reading my posts. Please have a big laugh when you see your hair get back to its original color. PM me if you want.

Regards,

Bao Saka

island808 said...
Bao Saka, Early on you requested that, in exchange for your info on kasai, people might decide to contribute to your son's education fund. If kasai is as excellent and effective as you claim, seems to me you are positioned to make big money importing and selling this herb in the states; maybe bring in a lot more cash than you will receive as contributions you've requested. Are you thinking about this idea? Is this possibly a business arrangement you could work out with Life Extension Foundation? I suspect that many of us would prefer to purchase your product, rather than waste a lot of time and energy wandering around on the internet or in Asian groceries searching for this apparently unusual black kasai.

greybeard
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Posted 5/28/2006 5:28 PM (GMT -5)

zorba990 said...
Although DMAE-H3 has worked for me, I thought you guys might want to see another option:

http://www.lipoxidil.com/site/graying.php

I already mentioned this on page # 6 of this thread... I have yet to hear from anyone that ordered it though. I may order it but lipoxidil has a bad rap on a lot of the hairloss boards.

on the Black Kasai, a Laosian friends says she can get it for me... we shall see. I told her I wanted it for treating gray hair, but since I have no visible gray showing she thinks I want it for other purposes

steve1368
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Posted 5/28/2006 5:33 PM (GMT -5)

Bao Saka,

Interesting to read about Black Galingale.

I live in Malaysia, neighbouring country to Thailand, if you don't mind can I have your brothers e-mail so that I can communicate with him, maybe he can tell me where I can purchase black Galingale in Malaysia and what's the Malaysian local name for black Galingale.

If not possible to purchase in Malaysia, alternatively I can buy from him directly.

Thanks a lot.

reverse
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Posted 5/28/2006 7:00 PM (GMT -5)

News: Been doing the Bao Saka experiment for a little over 3 weeks now; nothing has changed. I would love to report that my hair has reverted back to its original color but it has not. Just thought I'd let everyone know.

magha
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Posted 5/29/2006 10:41 AM (GMT -5)

Hi guys,

I am also trying to find reversal for gray and hairloss. Been reading the latest on hairloss products. Forced hair regrowth, if any, will usually be very fine,slow, and stays at stage one. Caffeine and capsicum are suppose to initiate a thickening phase. The problems I find is that capsicum kills the nerve by allowing in calcium ions. And caffeine is a diuretic which eventually dehydrates and suppresses the hair follicle as does alcohol. Most products have alcohol. Capsicum and peppers are used for graying as well. Are these negative actions controllable/reversible? How can something initiate thickening yet eventually suppress the follicle? Who knows. We can only try and see. These are agents applied from the outside, and the concentration is many times stronger than you could ever ingest. So if there are agents we could ingest that stimulate the follicle root as part of the whole, it would be the way to go.

'reverse', hang-in, I think you are expecting things too soon. Think about how long herbals need to take affect, and think about the hair foliicle phases of growth. I'd give a min of 6 months to see anything. I'm 'rooting' for this (pun intended). I'd definitely like to try the Black Galingale wine. Alcohol preseves the herb and make it assmilate digestion almost immediately. The dehyrating effects of alcohol when ingested can be reversed immediately, and this may be the case with the skin, with the correct agent.

For hair regrowth (and speeding color changes) we need to look at the growth of fingernails. What makes them grow quicker? I think hydration is a key of many things here. Collagen type II, glycerol, silica, hyaluronic acid, etc. This may speed current follicle growth to see any color changes faster. This may not grow hair on the bald spot but will make your current hair move quicker. There may be something to lycopene/niacin/brewers yeast. Lycopene is a pigment, but the melanin cycle needs to be jump-started some way. Maybe tyrosine can be added to the mix. Remember if your drink enough carrot juice your skin turns orange. We see it very soon only because the skin is an organ of immediate elimination. They sell pills to tan the skin this way.

Anyway keep trying, one of us is bound to find something effective. If we stop, we get nowhere for sure.

Bao Saka
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Posted 5/29/2006 10:44 AM (GMT -5)

reverse:
Don't worry! Please keep using that galingale, and you will see what you are expecting for. Some people will take shorter, but some people will take a bit longer. Another factor is how often you drink or you use it and how thick or thin is your galingale juice.
Regards,
Bao Saka

zorba990
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Posted 5/29/2006 10:45 AM (GMT -5)

3 weeks are you kidding? 3-6 months would be a bare minimum if you are looking for a nutritional effect.

reverse
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Posted 5/29/2006 7:35 PM (GMT -5)

Bao Saka said 2 to 4 weeks for this root to take effect. Just thought I'd give everyone an update. I also shave my head daily so my roots come in that quick. I will continue to take this root and do the experiment but I am doubtful at this stage. I will still give updates but will probably stop after a few months.

I have tried so many other things in case any of you out there are considering these products: Melancor (rip off), Recloeur, Melatonin/alcohol application, Brewer's Yeast, copper, tyrosine, DMAE, PABA, high vitamin B intake and a few others I cannot recall at the moment.

I really do hope the Bao Saka method works as none of the others I have mentioned has.

BartSimpson
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Posted 5/29/2006 7:35 PM (GMT -5)

I live in Brazil, so it is freaking hard for me to get the King Dum.

We NEED more people trying this method, or we are not going to be able to achieve a conclusion.

Bao Saka, can you sell me some of your King Dum?

If so, I intend to buy thorugh air mail to get here soon.

Write me back please.

island808
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Posted 5/30/2006 10:01 AM (GMT -5)

Bao Saka, Living in Honolulu, I thought I'd have a pretty good shot at tracking down black kasai; this town being a melting pot for folks from Asian countries. But I walked all around Chinatown, asked for kasai in probably a dozen herb and grocery stores, and had no luck. I also showed them the list of different names you say the plant is called in different countires. I did finally locate an Asian grocery that has kasai from Thailand; that's the way the packaging was labeled. So I bought the kasai. But when I later cut the root open, I could immediately see it wasn't the black variety you recommend. My impression is that the Chinese have never even heard of this plant. Maybe my best bet is locating a Thai market, but haven't found one yet. The two Vietnamese places I went into didn't have it.

PASSABOX
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Posted 5/30/2006 10:49 PM (GMT -5)

Bao Saka root is a natural product that works from inside out, not the other way.
As any natural product, the results will depend from person to person.
I took the Recouleur formula with no results for 3 months, the deadline that the pharmaceutic gave me.
For any other try, to see something you might wait at least that long for any result.
As I mentioned previously, I have been taking flaxseed form more than 6 years and for me it works wonderfully.
I started because I heard that it could also reverse the grey hair, but had no results. On the other hand, it´s good for the hair, intestine, digestion, colesterol and anticancer too.
Anyone experiencing hairloss should try this. Costs nothing.
For me, any other way as dying or outside in way is natural.
I think that what the most of us in this forum is looking for is in this way, by what I have read in all these threads.
Otherwise, we would just go to the pharmacy in the next corner and buy a dying lotion...!

- Think you mean to say Bao Saka's root, as Bao Saka is the name of the forum member. - mod

Post Edited By Moderator (DDye) : 5/30/2006 10:52:31 PM (GMT-4)

BartSimpson
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Posted 5/31/2006 10:35 AM (GMT -5)

PASSABOX

is flaxseed - semente de linho ?

can i get flaxseed in a regular supermarket?

how should i take it? and how much? daily?

Thanks for the answer

greyhairvictim1
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Posted 5/31/2006 10:35 AM (GMT -5)

Some guy talks about how taking arginine can help in restoring hair color at the following link. Has anyone tried it?

http://www.theyoungjerk.com/gray_hair

lad
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Posted 5/31/2006 10:36 AM (GMT -5)

UNLESS I've mistaken it for "Boesenbergia Rotunda" -

which is also available at the same ebay link.

Here is another direct source:
http://www.midphurua.com/e_version/faq.html

lad
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Posted 5/31/2006 10:37 AM (GMT -5)

Krachai Dam, AKA "black ginger" or more properly "Kaempferia Parviflora"

another source;

http://stores.ebay.com/Thai-Herbal-Products

No luck yet finding a local distributor for fresh product.

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