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gotsomegray
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   Posted 7/10/2006 9:49 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bhavani said...
Gotsomegray

Any luck with the Reminex? I've been trying it and it doesn't seem to agree with me. If you are interested, I have 3 unopened bottles you could purchase resonably. email me if you are - bhavani7@bellsouth.net
Bhavani,
 
I haven't noticed anything yet with Reminex.  I've added an antioxidant to my daily intake as well.  Thanks for the offer on the bottles of Reminex.  I will let you know if I decide to keep on it after my supply runs out.
 
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   Posted 7/10/2006 6:07 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
ok zorba, some questions:

firstly you say no "reversal" cos you are still taking the supplements, but does that mean you've seen a change in 95% of your hair in that it has regained its natural color? and what percentage of your hair was grey to start off with?

secondly, have just gone back through the posts to check your dosages. you originally said you were using 4x drops of DMAE-H3 + 4 drops hydroderm and you were using real SOD and ionic copper. sorry to be pedantic, but what dose have you been using regularly to achieve your "reversal"? and are you still adding the SOD and the hydroderm? and is that for the whole head or just small patch?

are you still applying every nite? and does it really smell bad? cos i got a couple of bottles from twinlab and it was a little challenging!

how much are you taking orally? you say a double dose, how much is a dose?

also in an earlier post you said you were using a secret ingredient - have you revealed that yet?

thanx for sharing your info!
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   Posted 7/11/2006 12:19 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
zorba990,

It looks like you are one of the very few participants with significant success restoring hair color. I am sure we would all like to hear lots of details on your case and what you are taking, applying, etc. How often, what dosage, how long before different degrees of success, what worked best, where you bought it, how you prepare it Etc. Please give details.
Thanks,
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   Posted 7/12/2006 11:20 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Has anyone tried Reminex?
Does it really work?
They say you should start noticing differences within a couple of months.
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   Posted 7/12/2006 12:58 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Don't mean to be prodding you as well, but would it be possible for you to upload some pictures of your hair's reversal, Zorba? This would really prove that your regimen is working and I'd be interested too to know what you're doing and how it's done.
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   Posted 7/12/2006 2:57 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Yes, Zorba, is there anyway you can provide us with some pictures? I'm really interested. I have tried so many things and am a bit discouraged at this point.
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   Posted 7/16/2006 6:43 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
StinkyJoe said...
zorba990,

It looks like you are one of the very few participants with significant success restoring hair color. I am sure we would all like to hear lots of details on your case and what you are taking, applying, etc. How often, what dosage, how long before different degrees of success, what worked best, where you bought it, how you prepare it Etc. Please give details.
Thanks,
StinkyJoe
I thought I had done that already.
 
I take 1 dropperful of DMAE-H3 orally, as well as the original HoShou Wu forumula, and SODZyme/Glisodin as well as a number of LEF forumulas that don't relate to this specifically but follow their general guidelines (Green Tea extract, etc).  On very rare occasions I will take some of the ionic copper orally but I am leary of taking too much copper.
 
I apply 1 dropperful DMAE-H3, 1 capful ionic copper, 1T arginine and 1T carnosine
topically.  I make this on the fly not in advance.  It stinks to high hell, so on occasion I have tried adding some essential oils of orange, lavendar, rosemary, etc. -- but I don't always remember to do that.  I take NAC sustain to stop fallout of hair (I might be considered a norwood .5 or something, but previously had some thinning at the top front).  I am leary of minoxidil, but might explore other things if the thinning comes back.
 
Sometimes I use the dermaroller for extra penetration.
 
I no longer do anything with Hydroderm due to the large number of parabens contained in it.  I think the above ingredients get into the follicle without much issue but one could always try dermarolling or DMSO or something if there was any doubt.
 
I don't have any photos to share.
 
Many people use copper peptides instead of ionic copper topically and are also reporting restoration of color.  Lots of copper orally will probable make one sick, but its up to the individual to figure out any copper zinc issues.  If the mixture smells fine to you then you are zinc deficient <g>.
 
I cannot say for sure this is not causing any kind of dying effect.  The DMAE-H3 will stain clothes, etc.  The copper I use is clear but the peptides will also stain.  From the color restored I don't think that this is the effect.
 
What I notice is many many fewer hairs (seemed zero last time) that are gray when I get a hair cut and see all the hair on the poncho-type-thingy, as opposed to at least 25% previously.
 
I don't want to reccomend brands as I don't really want to degenerate the thread into advertisements.  You can find all the above on the web and you should use normal prudent research yourself to avoid any problems with inferior materials.
 
 
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   Posted 7/16/2006 6:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It's possible there's another angle from which to address the challenge of restoring hair color. That would be to use devices rather than supplements. For instance, years ago I read about a guy who claimed he had restored his hair from gray to its original color by applying a magnet. Unfortunately, I cannot now recall specifics; magnet type, magnet strength, or location on or near the body where the magnet was placed to achieve the desired effect. In any case, maybe this is something worth researching.
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   Posted 7/16/2006 6:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi,
Fighting grey hair for a couple of months and want to give some information that I think is useful. Currently I use the following:
1) 3 tb black strap molasses with 1 tb honey first thing in the morning. I will add and 1 tb of wheat germ instead taking it at noon.
2) 500 mg Solgar PABA after lunch.
and I will add
3) 2 tb apple cider vinegar before sleep.
 
That will not be my final daily habit as from my research came to some useful conclusions.
1) B vitamins are useful 100% but they should provided all day long maybe finding a formula to take every six or eight hours. Thats because our organism absorbs the quantity it needs and dismiss the other - B vitamins water soluble. So it is better to provide the necessary quantity with doses.
2) PABA is very useful but from my research found that needs antioxidant vitamins to respond. Better take in conjuction with E vitamin or with C vitamin.  I would advise to take E vitamin as I have heard that E can give you the desirable solution -back to black - all alone.
Take a look:

http://www.wsgenetics.org/snow_nose1.htm 

Also I will try to keep the supplements for life as I know that [they] are beneficial and work better protecting my hair from turning white than turning white back to color.

3) Today I found by chance the following :-)

http://www.livingiseasy.co.uk/products/cat4/cat40/cat190/GREY_AWAY_Simple_Spray_on_-_Comb_in._Starts_taking_away_grey_FAST._150ml./index.html

I know that in this forum there are people with fine chemistry knowledge to look the ingredients and explain to us what is that. Is that a copy of Grecian Formula? Maybe is the first product of its kind that we all looked for years, and it is the time for similar products to follow. My only fear is that I don't trust such unknown products and that is a scam, but it is very cheap to give a try as they say you get results in 14 days.

 

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   Posted 7/17/2006 9:26 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi Zorba,
what's the deal with minoxidil? Why are you leary of it? Just curious, you seem well versed on many of these items currently available.
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   Posted 7/20/2006 8:19 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
magha said...
Hi Zorba,
what's the deal with minoxidil? Why are you leary of it? Just curious, you seem well versed on many of these items currently available.
For me it just falls into the category of using the drug endpoint for a reaction rather than the nutritional alternative.  Arginine is used to produce NO and so I would prefer to use that rather than NO itself.  My thought is that this will avoid any effects from overdose since the control is still with the body as to how much NO to produce.  In
addition, I suspect it would also avoid any bounce back effect from stopping the supplementation. 
 
 
 
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   Posted 7/26/2006 1:53 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Zorba,
 
Sorry, I am not clear how often you apply DMAE, Copper etc. to scalp. Daily?
 
Thanks
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   Posted 7/28/2006 12:14 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Here's a new possibility that I found recently.  The first link is to the resthairation seller's website for color rejeuvanating herbal shampoo and conditioner with antioxidants.  It's not cheap, but I already bought some and I can tell you that a small amount of the stuff will lather up more than you'd imagine.  It should last quite a while.  I'm really starting to buy into the idea of antioxidants and scalp massaging as being very helpful in hair pigmentation.
 
The second link is to an article on people who had success with this product in Bloomington, Illinois where this guy is based.  I've been getting so skeptical of reminex and melancor that I used a people finders website (free site) on the names given with the testimonials on those websites.  I never found a match on Reminex or Melancor, but I tried the same with the people listed in the resthairation article and I found them with their location in and around Bloomington, IL with their listed ages from the article.  That is the reason I decided to give it a try.
 
As always, I will keep you all up to date on my progress.  I'm now using Reminex, tyrosine, antioxidants, and resthairation color rejeuvanating shampoo and conditioner.  I am also buying a scalp massager.  I kind of surprise myself with the lengths I will go to try and stop the graying.
 
 
 
 
 
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   Posted 7/28/2006 3:19 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
gotsomegray said...
Here's a new possibility that I found recently.  The first link is to the resthairation seller's website for color rejeuvanating herbal shampoo and conditioner with antioxidants.  It's not cheap, but I already bought some and I can tell you that a small amount of the stuff will lather up more than you'd imagine.  It should last quite a while.  I'm really starting to buy into the idea of antioxidants and scalp massaging as being very helpful in hair pigmentation.
 
The second link is to an article on people who had success with this product in Bloomington, Illinois where this guy is based.  I've been getting so skeptical of reminex and melancor that I used a people finders website (free site) on the names given with the testimonials on those websites.  I never found a match on Reminex or Melancor, but I tried the same with the people listed in the resthairation article and I found them with their location in and around Bloomington, IL with their listed ages from the article.  That is the reason I decided to give it a try.
 
As always, I will keep you all up to date on my progress.  I'm now using Reminex, tyrosine, antioxidants, and resthairation color rejeuvanating shampoo and conditioner.  I am also buying a scalp massager.  I kind of surprise myself with the lengths I will go to try and stop the graying.
 
 
 
 
 
I'm not really sure how a shampoo, which is washed in and out of the hair, could really make a difference.  In any case, they would have to post a full ingredients list (as they are legally required since the point of pruchase is the internet) in order to get any interest from me -- especially at 50 bucks a bottle yeowch!
 
 
 
Cosmetics produced or distributed for retail sale to consumers for their personal care are required to bear an ingredient declaration (21 CFR 701.3).
 
The ingredient declaration must be conspicuous so that it is likely to be read at the time of purchase. It may appear on any information panel of the outer con-tainer, i.e., an information panel of the folding carton, box or wrapping if the immediate container is so pack-aged or, if not packaged in an outer container, an information panel of the jar, tube or bottle containing the product. The ingredient declaration may also appear on a tag, tape or card that is firmly affixed to the outer container. The letters must not be less than 1/16 of an inch in height (21 CFR 701.3(b)). If the total package surface available to bear labeling is less than 12 square inches, the letters must not be less than 1/32 of an inch in height (21 CFR 701.3(p)). Off-package ingredient labeling is permitted if the cosmetic is held in tightly compartmented trays or racks, it is not enclosed in a folding carton, and the package surface area is less than 12 square inches (21 CFR 701.3(i)).

The ingredients must be declared in descending order of predominance. Color additives (21 CFR 701.3(f)(3)) and ingredients present at one percent or less (21 CFR 701.3(f)(2)) may be declared after the ingredients present at concentrations exceeding one percent without regard for predominance. The ingredients must be identified by the names established or adopted by regulation (21 CFR 701.3(c)); those accepted by the FDA as exempt from public disclosure may be stated as "and other ingredients" (21 CFR 701.3(a)).

 

 

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   Posted 7/31/2006 5:24 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Zorba,
 
I had the same thoughts about a shampoo.  The directions require leaving it in your hair for 5 minutes before rinsing and it is amazing what the skin will absorb in a short amount of time, but I still understand and share your skepticism.  A little bit of the shampoo foams up like crazy in my hair so the bottle will last at least a few months if not about six or more.  So figuring around $10 a month, I don't feel like I'm throwing away quite as much money.  The conditioner does smell like fish just like someone mentions in that article.  The shampoo smell is strange but allright.  It reminds me of that oily dip they give you for your bread at Italian restaurants like Bravo.  I'm at work at the moment, but I'll have to post the ingredients on here soon.
 
As always, I'll let everyone know if I have any success.  I'm trying so many different things that it'll be difficult to pinpoint what worked for me (assuming I'm successful).
 
 
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   Posted 7/31/2006 6:21 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
This product sounds very interesting gotsomegray. My only question however is that if a product like this has been proven to work on individuals with grey hair, why hasn't word of its success spread rapidly? Surely there are many people who would be interested in using a product like this and that RestHAIRation would be doing all they could to promote their product. This is something that always leaves me sceptical of online products, but I'll be very interested if it works for you. By the way, is it as effective as a normal shampoo and conditioner on your hair? All the best!
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   Posted 8/2/2006 9:58 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
gotsomegray said...
Zorba,
 
I had the same thoughts about a shampoo.  The directions require leaving it in your hair for 5 minutes before rinsing and it is amazing what the skin will absorb in a short amount of time, but I still understand and share your skepticism.  A little bit of the shampoo foams up like crazy in my hair so the bottle will last at least a few months if not about six or more.  So figuring around $10 a month, I don't feel like I'm throwing away quite as much money.  The conditioner does smell like fish just like someone mentions in that article.  The shampoo smell is strange but allright.  It reminds me of that oily dip they give you for your bread at Italian restaurants like Bravo.  I'm at work at the moment, but I'll have to post the ingredients on here soon.
 
As always, I'll let everyone know if I have any success.  I'm trying so many different things that it'll be difficult to pinpoint what worked for me (assuming I'm successful).
 
 
"The conditioner does smell like fish just like someone mentions in that article"
 
Sounds like they are using DMAE-H3. 
 
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   Posted 8/3/2006 9:36 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hello everybody...

First of all English is not my native language...So may be I can make some mistakes...Sorry about that... :)

I'm 20 years old and my hair is 10% gray...I'm really unhappy about that and it affects my self-esteem...

I don't want to color my hair...Because I have hair loss problem...

I have been using Youthair for a week but I couldn't see any effect of that yet...

My question is: Is there anybody that used Melancor?? I wanna use Melancor but I don't know anything about that...

Thank you... :)
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   Posted 8/5/2006 10:32 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi Sum 41,

A few of the people on this forum and throughout the internet have used Melancor and had no success. Gotsomegray is now using RestHAIRation and people on the internet have said good things about it. If gotsomegray or other users have any good results this product may be better to use. :) You can found out more about it here:

http://www.resthairation.com/oscommerce/index.php?cPath=22

http://www.pantagraph.com/blogs/main/?cat=13

Also, to see results you usually need to wait 3 months or more. Hair grows in cycles slowly and a week would not be enough to see major changes. I have heard of YouthHair but have not used it, but if you have any good results over the next few months please let us know. :)

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   Posted 8/6/2006 4:38 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi kiki,

Thanks for your answer... :) I started using Youthair on July 28...And I haven't seen any effect of that yet...I read reviews on internet and most of people says it's working...

I have to wait 2 more weeks to see the results...Then I will share the results with you... :)

Thank you... :)
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   Posted 8/7/2006 9:41 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
kiki,
 
I use to use any $2 shampoo that I could find since I have very short hair, but I can definitely say that the restHairation is better simply as a shampoo than anything I have used before.  The conditioner works well also, but is difficult to spread around and smells pretty bad.  It doesn't seem to leave my hair smelling too bad though.  I will get the list of ingredients and post them soon.
 
Sum 41,
 
I used Melancor for 4 months and I have been taking Reminex for just over 4 months.  They are very similar products but the company that sells Melancor has an "F" rating with the better business bureau while Reminex has a favorable rating.  Their customer service department is much better also (or it exists as opposed to Melancor which seems to avoid people).  I don't know if Reminex works but they seem to be more reputable at least.  I have read a lot of reviews around the internet and it seems like there are some people who have had success with these products but most people are pretty unhappy with them.  I will probably finish the 8 months supply of Reminex that I originally purchased and let you all know if I have any success.  So far I don't think there is any change.
 
 
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   Posted 8/7/2006 12:12 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi all....I've just joined forum but i've been watching it since january....I started taking 1000 mg of PABA and 800 mg of vitamin E 04.08.2006 and I 'll report if I have any success.

@gotsomegray Do you think that restHairation shampoo without conditioner could work?...How long one bottle of it could last? Do you apply it, every day, few times a week or less...And if shampoo smells bad, what could it be done to get rid of the smell? Thank You!
 
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   Posted 8/8/2006 4:08 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I send an e-mail to Resthairation asking them these questions and the guy responded that for full results shampoo should be used with conditioner, and after using shampoo and conditioner, hair can be washed with some other shampoo to get rid of the smell or gel can be used...I think I will try this product, I really hope it works
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   Posted 8/8/2006 4:37 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I have also read the book Dead Doctors Don't Lie, and I agree that minerals are most important for maintaining good health, and probably good hair.
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"Grey Away" 

"...Contains Lead Acetate" sad

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