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likedarkhair
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| Posted 9/30/2007 10:38 PM (GMT -5) |   | Your login name Taoist, mine : likedarkhair- I don't think there is anything wrong with my login name.
You are free to agree or disagree with me it does not matter to me!!! | | Back to Top | | |
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modesto
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| Posted 9/30/2007 10:39 PM (GMT -5) | | I bought this product about 6 months ago for my gray hair and used it as instructed for 3-4 months but I gave up because I didn't notice any spectacular difference.
At about the time I started using it I began for the first time in my life to have some
terrible headaches. It took me some time to make the connection but I soon figured out that it was because of this thing. Sure they stopped when I gave up using it.
This guy who makes it is funny and compares the cost of buying it to the cost of
using Propecia as if they are both equally effective in growing/keeping hair.
I have used many of the suggestions in this forum over the past year without any
success so far as far as reversal is concerned. You can't be sure about delaying
the greying process. Currently I'm trying the Lac-Hydrin Retin A combination 3 times a week on wet hair. | | Back to Top | | |
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Alessio
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Total Posts : 104
| Posted 10/1/2007 2:29 PM (GMT -5) | | | Is anyone using sage to dye his/her hair? How effective is sage? And how many grey hair can you max have to use this product? | | Back to Top | | |
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brm
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Total Posts : 154
| Posted 10/1/2007 3:56 PM (GMT -5) | | | I do use sage. No result. I buy dry sage leaves. Simmer one cup of leaves with two cups of water for 1/2 hour. Let the whole stuff sit for 10 hours. Rinse my hair 10 times in a row with this every four or five days. I even don't rinse it off with clear water. Been doing so for two months: not the least result. Hair is only slightly yellowish... Anyone else? | | Back to Top | | |
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dLaertios
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Date Joined Apr 2006
Total Posts : 119
| Posted 10/1/2007 6:22 PM (GMT -5) | | Reversing grey hair is more difficult that I initially thought.
The good thing is that I have a new healthier lifestyle.
winners never quit. | | Back to Top | | |
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Vincentvangogo
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Total Posts : 30
| Posted 10/2/2007 3:11 PM (GMT -5) | | | I tried the sage for a while and didn't notice any change also. | | Back to Top | | |
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dLaertios
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Total Posts : 119
| Posted 10/3/2007 9:55 AM (GMT -5) | | It took me about a year. The bad think I believe that I see more grey in my facial.
Maybe the most useful item is colloidal copper on the scalp. Because I am afraid of losing hair - all this washing of scalp- I stopped colloidal copper for awhile and I try to experiment with supplements only. | | Back to Top | | |
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Vincentvangogo
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Total Posts : 30
| Posted 10/3/2007 6:10 PM (GMT -5) | | | BRM I can't remember how long I used it for, maybe two months. I used it with rosemary also, as that was what I read helped. I'm guessing about 50% water, 25% sage and 25% rosemary and I also didn't rinse it off. Only difference I noticed was that I ended up smelling a bit like cooked chicken. | | Back to Top | | |
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reverse
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Total Posts : 64
| Posted 10/4/2007 11:59 AM (GMT -5) | | | If anyone has a toll free number to L'oreal, I will call and ask about the auxins. | | Back to Top | | |
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Alessio
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Total Posts : 104
| Posted 10/4/2007 3:37 PM (GMT -5) | | I had sent today email to dr. Desmond Tobin:
Dear Dr. Tobin,
I have read the interwie you gave last year to Modern Medicine (Rebecca Bryant).
You said that white follicles taken from someone who has been grey-haired for a long time still have melanocytes. They are greatly reduced in number and dormant but manage to survive for decades. By exposing these melanocytes to peptides and/or chemicals you have persuaded them to repopulate and produce melanin — in vitro.
Could you please tell me if I started greying 5 years ago and as you have said that we could have a cure in decade or so, would my grey hair still have posibilltiy to reverse or not. Would my melanocytes still be present in hair bulb.
Thank you!
Here is his reply:
Regarding the timeline for the avilability of a product - this is likely to be
some time away still. Maybe 5-10 years. As you correctly say, even after
graying for some years, these hair follicles could respond and rep[igment.
What do you think is that optimistic or pesimistic prediction??????????
Is that matching with dr. Bruno Bernard claim, that product will be available in 2-7 years.
I hope that some cure will be commercially available much sooner!!!!! | | Back to Top | | |
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StarGazer
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Total Posts : 118
| Posted 10/5/2007 9:45 AM (GMT -5) | | | Is Dr. Tobin with L'Oreal?
Because if he is, and he's saying 5-10 years out, I would say that is very bad news. about 4 years ago, they were saying 2-5 years or something like that.
Bottom line is, it will be 20 years or so if that is the case. Think I'm being overly pessimistic? Consider this:
I first heard about melanotan in 1990. The U. of Arizona was first to work on the melanotan project, and they told me in 1990 that they hoped to have something available in 3 years.
Well, here we are 17 years later, and the company now working on Melanotan, Clinuvel, is still saying 3 years until commercialization.
Don't hold your breath.
Right now, I'm trying Retin-A and Lac-Hydrin. If that doesn't work, it's probably either live with the grey or start the dye job. And the dye job for me is a last resort given how fake it looks. Men who dye their hair look ridiculous IMO. Sorry, but it is so obvious on them. | | Back to Top | | |
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Alessio
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Total Posts : 104
| Posted 10/5/2007 9:54 AM (GMT -5) | | I have a question for you guys.
If I understand a greying process and posibillity to reverse grey hair is that possible only untill then some melanocytes are still present in hair follicle. Scientists have discovered that grey hair still have melanocytes in early stages of greying. But how long usually melanocytes are in grey hair follicle before they die?
Am I right that grey hair have melanocytes until the hair turns white, and that could be for more than a decade??? Is reversal of grey hair possible also when hair contains no more melanocytes??? | | Back to Top | | |
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Alessio
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| Posted 10/5/2007 10:12 AM (GMT -5) | | | StarGazer Dr. Tobin doesn not work for L`Oreal, he is a scientist at Bradfort University and he cooperate with Wella-German cosmetic company. But his predictions are getting more and more optimistic; in 2003 he said that the cure will be available for the next generation. I had sent him email in january this year and he said that we could have the cure in more than a decade. Now he said 5-10 years. But he hasn`t denied that progress is happening and it is looking like it is happening very fast. I believe that because cosmetics companies are aware that there are several other companies which are trying to develop the cure, not by biological ways but with some genetic changes (stem cells), and that companies aren`t worried about loosing their profit on colour market, because they aren't producing dyes. | | Back to Top | | |
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ihoward
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| Posted 10/5/2007 3:16 PM (GMT -5) | | Several years ago my mother was dating an elderly gentleman who drank what he called stinging nettle tea. He would grow and harvest the weed himself. Even though at the time he was in his 70's, he did not have a single grey hair on his head. What was weird was that he got my mother drinking it for her respiratory health and according to her, her hair also started growing in dark. When they broke up and she stopped drinking it, it turned gray again. She said it was so noticeable that it looked like a dark stripe when her hair grew out. I was not around during this time period, so I did not eyewitness this effect, however it was substantiated by other family members.
Since my hair was starting to turn grey, I figured I would give stinging nettle a try. Unfortunately, I did not have any luck with it and after several months, gave up on it. I always wondered if it really was stinging nettle or if it was something else. The gentleman came from another country (the Ukraine) and perhaps he got his herb names confused. Any thoughts on this? Thanks. | | Back to Top | | |
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brm
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Total Posts : 154
| Posted 10/5/2007 4:26 PM (GMT -5) | | Alessio, the mast thing I've read about this was that melanocytes were still present in hair follicles but that they reached a phase of dormancy because of a kind of genetic bug that induced them into no longer coloring the hair stem. The trouble is: how to get our genes to not alter this melanocyte function. So a white hair should be liable to get colored again if a cure is found. That's what I understood...
Stargazer, I agree that hair dye is not good looking with men. Why don't you try grecian 2000 or L'Oreal progress or Just for men? | | Back to Top | | |
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AussieDavid
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Date Joined Mar 2006
Total Posts : 181
| Posted 10/6/2007 12:08 PM (GMT -5) | |
I stumbled across the following newspaper article from 2006 while doing a google search on Loreal. Not sure if it's been posted before, but it talks about some of the things people are discussing here.
I modified my vitamin program considerably about 2 months ago. I think I was taking too many pills. I have tried to implement as many things as possible that are reported to reverse grey hair. In the last 2 weeks I have found 3 hairs that have definite reversal....dark base and grey tip. I suspect this will be a very long process, but the fact that I have seen with my own eyes on several occasions, hairs that have reversed colour, I know that reversal is possible. I don't know if ALL grey hairs can have their colour restored. I don't even know exactly which part of my program has caused the reversal on the hairs I have noticed.
Here is my entire program. I have highlighted in bold type the things that I think may affect grey hair.
| Daily Supplement Program |
| Morning |
Midday |
Evening |
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| Proscar |
2.5mg |
Protein Drink |
30g Protein |
LEF Mix Tabs (9/day formula) |
3 |
| Advanced Natural Prostate Formula |
1 |
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Super EPA/DHA |
2000mg |
| LEF Mix Tabs (9/day formula) |
3 |
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Advanced Natural Prostate Formula |
1 |
| Super EPA/DHA |
2000mg |
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Seven Treasures (Fo-Ti) |
1 |
| Seven Treasures (Fo-Ti) |
1 |
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Protein Drink |
30g Protein |
| Gamma E Tocopherol |
1 |
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Glutamine |
1g |
| Ashwagandha Extract |
125mg |
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| Super Zeaxanthin |
35mg |
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| IGF Solutions |
5mg |
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| Protein Drink |
30g Protein |
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1 Spoonful Blackstrap Molasses in
a cup of warm milk |
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| Hair Topicals |
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Lavender infused water with 1% Clove
Oil. |
Misted on to hair and scalp after morning and evening shower (before Minox).
Lavendar is supposed to stimulate hair growth.
Eugenol (Clove Bud) is supposed to reverse grey hair) |
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| 8% Minoxidil & 0.015% Retinoic Acid |
1ml |
Applied to Dry Scalp morning and evening |
| 15% Minox + Azaelic Acid |
0.5ml |
Applied to hairline evenings only |
| Spironactane Cream 5% |
Applied to hairline morning and evening at least 30 mins after minox. |
| Hormones |
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| Trans-D-Tropin (GH Stimulant) |
15 Drops |
Applied 3 times/day to forearms. Mon-Fri only. |
I also use Nizoral 2% shampoo twice a week and on the other days, I use Surya Brazil Nut Shampoo and Alchemy Contitioner, both of which are free of sodium laurel sulfate.
I found some posts on another forum which mention folligen and tricomin, both of which have copper peptides in them....some have good reports, others say those products aren't worth the money.
Another thing perhaps worth mentioning is Emu Oil. Google 'Emu Oil' and 'grey hair' and there are some interesting results. | | Back to Top | | |
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Alessio
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Date Joined May 2007
Total Posts : 104
| Posted 10/6/2007 12:08 PM (GMT -5) | | Some of you are talking about Melanotan, but I haven`t found any conection about Melanotan and grey hair. Is not just for skin to get darken and so prevent or decrease the possibility of our skin to get sun burn?
StarGazer can you provide the link of Melanotan? | | Back to Top | | |
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dang
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Date Joined May 2005
Total Posts : 40
| Posted 10/7/2007 10:48 PM (GMT -5) | | | so is nobody going to try keracyte? it's awfully expensive, but from what i can tell it's one of the more promising products out there based on the effects the ingredients have on the skin. | | Back to Top | | |
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Alessio
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Date Joined May 2007
Total Posts : 104
| Posted 10/7/2007 10:49 PM (GMT -5) | | AussieDavid the article you have posted was published in May 2004. The last comment on this article was added in 2006!!
AussieDavid said...
I stumbled across the following newspaper article from 2006 while doing a google search on Loreal. Not sure if it's been posted before, but it talks about some of the things people are discussing here.
I modified my vitamin program considerably about 2 months ago. I think I was taking too many pills. I have tried to implement as many things as possible that are reported to reverse grey hair. In the last 2 weeks I have found 3 hairs that have definite reversal....dark base and grey tip. I suspect this will be a very long process, but the fact that I have seen with my own eyes on several occasions, hairs that have reversed colour, I know that reversal is possible. I don't know if ALL grey hairs can have their colour restored. I don't even know exactly which part of my program has caused the reversal on the hairs I have noticed.
Here is my entire program. I have highlighted in bold type the things that I think may affect grey hair.
| Daily Supplement Program |
| Morning |
Midday |
Evening |
|
| Proscar |
2.5mg |
Protein Drink |
30g Protein |
LEF Mix Tabs (9/day formula) |
3 |
| Advanced Natural Prostate Formula |
1 |
|
|
Super EPA/DHA |
2000mg |
| LEF Mix Tabs (9/day formula) |
3 |
|
|
Advanced Natural Prostate Formula |
1 |
| Super EPA/DHA |
2000mg |
|
|
Seven Treasures (Fo-Ti) |
1 |
| Seven Treasures (Fo-Ti) |
1 |
|
|
Protein Drink |
30g Protein |
| Gamma E Tocopherol |
1 |
|
|
Glutamine |
1g |
| Ashwagandha Extract |
125mg |
|
|
|
|
| Super Zeaxanthin |
35mg |
|
|
|
|
| IGF Solutions |
5mg |
|
|
|
|
| Protein Drink |
30g Protein |
|
|
|
|
1 Spoonful Blackstrap Molasses in
a cup of warm milk |
|
|
|
|
|
| |
|
|
|
| Hair Topicals |
|
Lavender infused water with 1% Clove
Oil. |
Misted on to hair and scalp after morning and evening shower (before Minox).
Lavendar is supposed to stimulate hair growth.
Eugenol (Clove Bud) is supposed to reverse grey hair) |
|
| 8% Minoxidil & 0.015% Retinoic Acid |
1ml |
Applied to Dry Scalp morning and evening |
| 15% Minox + Azaelic Acid |
0.5ml |
Applied to hairline evenings only |
| Spironactane Cream 5% |
Applied to hairline morning and evening at least 30 mins after minox. |
| Hormones |
|
| Trans-D-Tropin (GH Stimulant) |
15 Drops |
Applied 3 times/day to forearms. Mon-Fri only. |
I also use Nizoral 2% shampoo twice a week and on the other days, I use Surya Brazil Nut Shampoo and Alchemy Contitioner, both of which are free of sodium laurel sulfate.
I found some posts on another forum which mention folligen and tricomin, both of which have copper peptides in them....some have good reports, others say those products aren't worth the money.
Another thing perhaps worth mentioning is Emu Oil. Google 'Emu Oil' and 'grey hair' and there are some interesting results.
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Tom
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Date Joined Jul 2006
Total Posts : 893
| Posted 10/9/2007 11:13 AM (GMT -5) | | That was a really informative and interesting link you posted. The only thing that worries me is the subcutaneous injection. I'm not really fond of injecting myself with needles and the risks if done incorrectly. Can this be taken orally?
Thanks | | Back to Top | | |
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xtian
Registered Member
Date Joined Oct 2007
Total Posts : 30
| Posted 10/9/2007 4:38 PM (GMT -5) | | | Please guys do not use that product!!!! it's really dangerous, there are people in serious trouble for that, going blind and being harmed by it. | | Back to Top | | |
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