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Alessio
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Long-term hair repigmentation following a hair transplant for frontal scarring alopecia.

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Australasian Journal of Dermatology. 48(4):236-238, November 2007.
Dinh, Hope V 1; Sinclair, Rodney 1; Martinick, Jennifer 2
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SUMMARY: A 57-year-old woman developed repigmentation of white donor hairs 9 months after undergoing hair transplantation for an area of frontal scarring alopecia present since childhood. The hairs have remained repigmented more than 2 years post transplant. We discuss possible mechanisms underlying long-term follicular repigmentation of white hairs.
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dLaertios said...
I remember someone saying that he would use topical application of clove oil. What happened?
I have been trying a topical solution of clove oil in lavendar hydrosol. I've also been taking herbs and vitamins such as Ashwagandha, Vital treasures (Fo-ti, Eclipta Alba, Ligustrum, alma fruit), LEF multi. I've also been taking blackstrap molasses.
 
I have found probably 10 hairs in the past few weeks that have definite reversal....black base and grey tip. I don't think that the greying has stopped though, I'm just getting some reversal. I've also just added Tricomin to my regime. It has copper peptides in it and a few people on hairlosstalk.com are using it to help prevent hair loss. There were a couple of posts there that said it helped with grey hair. I'll try it for 6 months and see how I go.
 
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  		   Posted 11/7/2007 10:38 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Good Morning,

I tried PABA for a couple monhts, but it didnt work out.

Also, B Complex and other vitamins

My head has got many more gray hairs :(

 

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BartSimpson said...

Good Morning,

I tried PABA for a couple monhts, but it didnt work out.

Also, B Complex and other vitamins

My head has got many more gray hairs :(

 

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I think paba and other Bs will only help if all you are missing are co-factors.  Those that are copper, vitamin d, glutathione, sulfur, histidine, tyrosine, zinc, etc deficient will not benefit.
I'm starting to think many more people are histidine deprived than I originally thought.  I think it is also related to hair loss which may be due to the metal (specifically) nickel chelating ability of histidine.  Unless suffering from mental illness, allergies, or unresolved histamine related inflammation, 500-1500 mg histidine a day for a year or two might be worth a try. (The theory being that lifetime of nickel buildup is tying up dietary histidine and there is little left over to do other work).  I'd be very interested to see a study that uses healthy, elderly patients with histidine supplementation that measures excreted metal content.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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  		   Posted 11/15/2007 10:34 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
This company Compassionet sells a product called toki color that is supposed to help support hair color. I have not tried it but I have tried their collagen skin product and it was quite nice but expensive.

http://www.compassionet.com/products/lanelabs-supplement-TOKI_Color-natural-hair-color.asp
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  		   Posted 11/18/2007 6:07 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

In Germany and surrounding countries, Schwarzkopf sells a hair-color product called "Re-Nature 1st Grey," with Dihydroxyindoline HBR as the active ingredient.  Does that ingredient sound familiar?
idea

It appears that you shampoo it in, and then your hair darkens gradually over 5 days from exposure to the air.  It takes several applications to restore the full color. Would this be a gentler alternative to Grecian Formula, etc?  Here is the official page:  http://www.renature.schwarzkopf.com/

Ingredients:  Aqua, Cetearyl Alcohol, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Coconut Alcohol, Sodium Laureth-6 Carboxylate, Lauryl Glucoside, Dihydroxyindoline HBR, Octyldodecanol, Ceteareth-12, Ceteareth-20, Sodium Bicarbonat, Sodium Carbonate, Ammonium Hydroxide, Acrylamidopropyltrimonium Chloride/Acrylate Copolymer, Methylparaben, Ascorbic Acid, Arginine, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Parfum, Benzyl Salicylate, Linalool, Citronellol, Geraniol, MICA, CI 77491, CI 77891.

There are different products for men and women.  The "Re-Nature 1st Grey" products are for people with with fewer greys (up to 30%?), and the "Re-Nature" products are for people with more greys (over 50%?).

Here is a link to more info from a seller in Germany (you may have to paste the link into your browser):

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.rossmann.de/DesktopModules/WebShop/shopdisplayproducts.aspx%3Fid%3D1275%26cat%3DRe-%2BPigmentierung&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DSchwarzkopf%2B%2Brossmann%2B%2522Re%2BNature%2B%2522%2Bsite:rossmann.de%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG%26as_qdr%3Dall

This seller will not ship to the USA.  Any idea how to get this in the USA?  Has anyone tried this? 

Here is a nice English-language FAQ from a New Zealand store that sells the original Re-Nature (not the 1st Grey):  http://www.pharmacydirect.co.nz/default.aspx?i=5071

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  		   Posted 11/19/2007 6:18 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
StinkyJoe said...

In Germany and surrounding countries, Schwarzkopf sells a hair-color product called "Re-Nature 1st Grey," with Dihydroxyindoline HBR as the active ingredient.  Does that ingredient sound familiar?
idea  

That product is also sold in Australia. I have tried it and wouldn't waste my money buying it again. The colour washes out within a week and it also gave my hair a slight blue/purple tint.
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  		   Posted 11/19/2007 6:18 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Why not take grecian? Is there still lead in the formulation? Were they not to change this? 
 
I think Schwartzkopf's Renature uses the same mechanism as L'oreal's Progress. Maybe you can get the latter more easily???

It would be nice to have some feedback from users of either product. Can these products harm hair?
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  		   Posted 11/23/2007 11:36 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Searched a lot, but as far as i know, there is no obvious cure for gray hair. there are temporary solutions like restorai, grecian etc. to dye hair, forget about it. there is a fruit called amla (amalaki). i can't find it where i am living, but i want to try. anyway, i am 27 and i have %50 gray hair which means within 2-3 years lots of gray in my hair. previously i couldn't even look at the mirror. but i think we should get used to live this hairs.
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  		   Posted 11/23/2007 12:27 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

I would like to see a few of us try Goji Berries for grey hair.   I might order some soon.

I had posted about this before, and forgot about the berries, but there was a recent article on Yahoo about the 10 best foods you can eat, and Goji berries were ranked with this URL:

http://www.gojiberries.us

I have tried Retin-A + Hydroxin the past 3 months, and it has not helped.  I had posted the patent here on this board before.  I've also given up on He Shou Wu. 

 

 


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  		   Posted 11/23/2007 6:47 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
End of stem cell wars soon approches

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/22/science/22stem.html?em&ex=1195966800&en=3d24427925954325&ei=5087%0A
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  		   Posted 11/25/2007 7:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
AussieDavid said...
That product is also sold in Australia. I have tried it and wouldn't waste my money buying it again. The colour washes out within a week and it also gave my hair a slight blue/purple tint.
AussieDavid, Did you use the the original "Re-Nature" or the new "Re-Nature 1st Grey"?
brm said...
Why not take grecian? Is there still lead in the formulation? Were they not to change this? 
 
I think Schwartzkopf's Renature uses the same mechanism as L'oreal's Progress. Maybe you can get the latter more easily???

It would be nice to have some feedback from users of either product. Can these products harm hair?
brm, Grecian Formula and similar products still have bad ingredients, such as lead acetate or p-phenylenediamine.  You are right. Schwartzkopf "Re-Nature" and "Re-Nature 1st Grey" use the same mechanism as L'Oreal Progress. I could not find reviews for "Re-Nature 1st Grey" since it is new.  The other products have mostly good reviews.
 
Here are some links. You probably have to copy the links into your browser:
 
L'Oreal Progress Homme reviews:
Another L'Oreal Progress Homme review:
Schwartzkopf Re-Nature 1st Grey FAQ:
Schwartzkopf Re-Nature reviews:
Schwartzkopf Re-Nature information (in German)

www.renature.eu/

Schwartzkopf Re-Nature Ingredients:

Aqua, Ceraryl Alcohol, Coconut Alcohol, Sodium Laureth-6 Carboxylate, Sodium Myreth Sulfate, Lauryl Glucoside, Octyldodecanol, Ceteareth-12, Ceteareth-20, 5,6-Dihydroxyindoline HBR, Arginine, Ammonium Hydroxide, Ascorbic Acid, Parfum, Geraniol, Citronellol, Linalool, Benzylsalicylate

 Has anyone else tried these products? Please let us know.

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  		   Posted 11/25/2007 8:11 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
:-)   zinc/copper balance on scalp  :-)  
 
Like others here, I have very low zinc in my blood and very high zinc in my hair. I tried adding topical copper to my scalp to correct the zinc/copper balance, but it was too much trouble. Instead of adding copper, it might work better to remove the excess zinc.
 
Is there something that will gently remove the excess zinc from my hair follicles? Maybe some kind of topical chelation or swimmer's shampoo? What chelates zinc?
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  		   Posted 11/25/2007 8:27 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Have tried goji beries, blackstrap molasses, Foti, B vitamins, chelated magnesium, Brewers yeast, Ashwaganda = no reversal.

Disapointed not to have heard something by now of Valerie Randal's work at Bradford University.

The answer to grey hair reversal seems to be many years away.

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StinkyJoe said...
:-)   zinc/copper balance on scalp  :-)  
 
Like others here, I have very low zinc in my blood and very high zinc in my hair. I tried adding topical copper to my scalp to correct the zinc/copper balance, but it was too much trouble. Instead of adding copper, it might work better to remove the excess zinc.
 
Is there something that will gently remove the excess zinc from my hair follicles? Maybe some kind of topical chelation or swimmer's shampoo? What chelates zinc?
High hair zinc could be from environmental factors.  In particular, several shampoos will cause this.
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StinkyJoe said...
:-)   zinc/copper balance on scalp  :-)  
 
Like others here, I have very low zinc in my blood and very high zinc in my hair. I tried adding topical copper to my scalp to correct the zinc/copper balance, but it was too much trouble. Instead of adding copper, it might work better to remove the excess zinc.
 
Is there something that will gently remove the excess zinc from my hair follicles? Maybe some kind of topical chelation or swimmer's shampoo? What chelates zinc?
High hair zinc is caused by low blood zinc. It sounds weird, but I have been told this by 2 doctors. Maybe if you take a zinc supplement and increase your blood zinc levels, your hair zinc levels will decrease.
StinkyJoe said...
AussieDavid, Did you use the the original "Re-Nature" or the new "Re-Nature 1st Grey"?
The one I tried was Schawarzkopf Re-Nature. I first saw it here just over a year ago.
 
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  		   Posted 11/28/2007 10:51 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
As mentioned above, what is L'oreal Progress?   Is it just another hair colorant from L'oreal?

Is it available in the U.S.?  If not, why not? 
 
thx.
 
I feel your pain, guys.  Gettin' greyer by the day.
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I just don't get it. There have been patents going back to the 80's and all we have available to us is hair dyes! Nothing new?

What really confuses me is something I stumbled upon while researching the net. It's a method used to darken hair. It's used for hair removal, to darken white or very light hair so the laser can pick up the hair and shaft to remove it. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? If so, how does this make sense? Why is our only alternative hair dye?

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Same goes for naturally tanning the skin, reverse. There are lots of patents on that as well, and there have been for 20 years, but no company can produce (or is willing to produce) such a product.

We sent a man to the moon in 1969. Almost 40 years later, we still cannot reverse grey hair or get tan skin (with an approved product).

Now, what is more important? Our personal vanity, or sending manned spaceships into orbit?

C'mon, society - vanity is always top priority! We must get the chicks!
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  		   Posted 11/29/2007 6:38 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What's wrong with untanned, "white" skin?
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Reverse, what is this method to darken body hair (for laser removal)?
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DDye said...
What's wrong with untanned, "white" skin?
I'm still wondering if supplementing D3 is as good as having it form in the skin from sunlight.  Until recently (on a historical scale), humans likely spent the majority of waking hours outside.  The tendency to view extremely pale skin as 'unhealthy' may be a built in program that evaluates the value of potential mates.
 
 
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Could be cultural, too. During the previous centuries a tan was a sign of belonging to the working class, bent over in the sun. Now people use the term redneck to describe Caucasian agricultural workers.

Concerning your question, however, vitamin D3 supplements have been demonstrted to elevate 25-hydroxyvitamin D. If you want to get your vitamin D from the sun, you may need less exposure than what triggers the protective (tanning) reaction.
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  		   Posted 12/5/2007 9:42 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Well, I've tried a lot of different things for my greying hair - all to no avail.

I did the dirty deed today - I went to the Just for Men website out of curiosity. It got me wondering if I should give in to something I never thought I'd do - color my hair.

Has anyone out there tried Just for Men, and if so, were they pleased or displeased with the results? Any positive or negative comments from lovers, friends, etc?

thx
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Stanford researchers produce short-term reversal of skin aging in mice

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2007-11/sumc-srp112607.php
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