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     |  brm Registered Member
       Date Joined Dec 2006 Total Posts : 154 | Posted 7/28/2008 9:51 AM (GMT -5) |   | | No problem with the other seller you quote. She sent me the right stuff (to France) at a reasonable price and within a 12 days time frame. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  AussieDavid Registered Member
       Date Joined Mar 2006 Total Posts : 181 | Posted 7/30/2008 9:30 AM (GMT -5) |   |
JenJ said...
AussieDavid,
Which Ebay seller wanted to charge $60 USD for shipping - was it Dog Gone Sisters or Hair Growth Zone? I'm guessing that the owner of the Ebay store is posting on, or reading this forum. I originally googled as you suggested in a previous post and found 2 ebay stores selling the product. I think the one that was charging the $60 delivery was Hair Growth Central, though they are now saying delivery is $32.45 to Australia. That's still a rip-off and is at least $20 above what it actually costs.
I am in NYC at the moment and found a shop that sells the re:nu serum (82nd and Broadway). I picked up two of the 5 ounce bottles today. The price was $75 each, plus tax. Rather expensive. The brochure inside the package is quite interesting and makes some fairly big claims for a company such as Joico. Part of their claim is that: "Over Time: Continued usage has been shown to slow the graying process, reducing the amount of gray hair and restoring natural haircolor by encouraging the growth of pigmented hair."
In the enclosed brochure they say that "Re:nual Serum nourishes the scalp environment, enhancing natural melanin producion and strengthening hair follicles for the optimal growth of healthy, pigmented hair, with scientifically-proven Japanese ingredients:
Panax Ginseng Extract: Activates cells in the hair follicle to promote healthy development of hair, imporving elasticity and strength.
Zanthoxylum Fruit Extract: (Japanese Sansho Pepper): Activates pigment-producing melanocytes and promotes their migration back into the follicle to reduce growth of new gray hair.
Hops Extract: Increases the number of melanocytes in the hair follicle."
The ingredients listed on the side of the package are: Alcohol Denat, Water/aqua/eau, menthol, glycyrrhentinic acid, eucalyptus globulus leaf oil, coriandrum sativum (coriander) fruit/leaf extrat, humulus lupulus (hops) extract, panax ginseng root extract, hydroxypropyl-cellulose, zanthoxylum piperitum fruit extract, niacinamide, panthenyl ethyl ether, tocopheryl acetate, benzyl nicotinate, triethylhexanoin, isostearyl alcohol, lactic acid, sodium lactate.
I'm going to give it a go for 6 months and see what happens.
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 |  lad Registered Member
       Date Joined Jul 2005 Total Posts : 140 | Posted 8/1/2008 11:05 AM (GMT -5) |   | | Hmmmm...Are they going as far as saying it actually re-pigments grey hair? Or are suggesting it will maintain color in resting-stage hair, which will start to appear in 6 months. | | Back to Top | | |
   |  zachem Registered Member
       Date Joined Apr 2008 Total Posts : 27 | Posted 8/10/2008 3:24 PM (GMT -5) |   | There are so many good threads here and there is so much stuff to try but it seems the best results so far have come from copper, DMAE-H3, PABA, and vitamin B (which number though?). I'd like to try the Keracyte so if you have real estate needs in California, contact me so I can buy the product - LOL.
I know that illness factors into gray hair growth and I've had my share. Also, am suffering from hormonal imbalances and think that I need thyroid upped again (am on .3 mg of Synthroid and 7.5 mcg of Cytomel). My hair is dry and I am thinning out on the top. I used to have such long, lovely, and thick hair - I miss it!
At this point, if I try any supplement to try to stop graying and to try to reverse it, wouldn't be any trouble and if it went grayer - it certainly wouldn't make a difference, since I'm about 25% gray now. Salt and pepper. Hair coloring works well but it is expensive. I suppose it wouldn't cost anymore though to get Keracyte and try it out.
I'm taking biotin right now and am going to add niacin to it today. I'll let you know if it works. I think that I read somewhere that copper helps with thyroid production. I'm anemic too and it's also supposed to help with iron absorbency.
I should add a little exercise to my regimen too I suppose to get that blood flowing - I haven't exercised in 9 years, since my last child, due to illness.
I'm also taking adrenal supplements (I had Cushing's disease now I'm adrenal fatigued after having 2 tumors removed from pituitary gland - this may also be messing with the things that I need for healthy hair because the pit gland has been tampered with and possibly has a little destruction), fish oil, multi vit, 1000 mg of vit C, and hyaluronic acid. I have recently begun the adrenal supplements and I notice a diff in energy levels right away but still need a nap every afternoon - by the way - I'm only 45!!!!!!!!! Even my 95 year old grandma doesn't need naps during the day!
Anyone have suggestions as to what I might add to the regime to possibly try to get the gray out (got wash that gray right out of my hair or in this case grow it out). I figure the antioxidants and vitamins are good for me anyway even if they don't reverse my hair color which is dark brown, almost black. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  zachem Registered Member
       Date Joined Apr 2008 Total Posts : 27 | Posted 8/11/2008 9:44 AM (GMT -5) |   | | I also may try bentonite clay to clear the toxins out of my system. I'll let you know if it works; going to Whole Foods tomorrow to pick some up. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  brm Registered Member
       Date Joined Dec 2006 Total Posts : 154 | Posted 8/13/2008 4:03 PM (GMT -5) |   | | zachem, you could try topical vegetal oils such as amla oil and coco oil (1 hour prior to washing, twice a week). I use them. They don't "cure" grey hair but make it appear light brown and make for a luxurious hair by the way. Topical copper peptides make my grey look greenish. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  dang Registered Member
       Date Joined May 2005 Total Posts : 40 | Posted 8/15/2008 2:48 PM (GMT -5) |   | It does appear from the joico website that the serum reverses some of the graying in time. The photos don't show a complete, 100% reversal but certainly quite a bit of improvement.
I suppose it's at least moving in the right direction. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  Vincentvangogo Registered Member
       Date Joined May 2006 Total Posts : 30 | Posted 8/17/2008 7:25 PM (GMT -5) |   | | I always wonder with before and after photos, what's to stop them simply swapping them around? | | Back to Top | | |
 |  StarGazer Registered Member
       Date Joined Nov 2006 Total Posts : 118 | Posted 8/17/2008 7:35 PM (GMT -5) |   | | | |
 |  StarGazer Registered Member
       Date Joined Nov 2006 Total Posts : 118 | Posted 8/18/2008 9:03 AM (GMT -5) |   | | | |
 |  teengraygal Registered Member
       Date Joined May 2007 Total Posts : 16 | Posted 8/19/2008 8:38 AM (GMT -5) |   | I stay in India and i tried homeopathy medicine AcidPhos30C for 2 months as it is recommendend by many homeopathy doctors for gray hair. But I don't think it has reversed my gray hair to any extent, but i got severe backpain during my periods after using this medicine. I have sooo much of gray hair and am desperate to get rid of it.
After much analysis of my health conditions, I strongly feel iam deficient in copper. but i didnt find any site selling ionic copper in India. I neither know any mineral supplements for copper deficiency. I wanted to drink water from copper vessel everyday. Then again i am afraid that toxics will accumulate in my body if i do it. Is it safe to drink water from a copper vessel? if so, will it help me correct my copper deficiency? I appreciate if someone could show me a way to correct my copper deficiency? Is there any homeopathy/allopathy medicine to correct copper deficiency? pls help. | | Back to Top | | |
     |  vauxall Registered Member
       Date Joined Jun 2008 Total Posts : 114 | Posted 8/22/2008 10:51 AM (GMT -5) |   | | Pfhoa! 150 mg a day is a hell of a lot. Are you sure it's not 15 mg a day? | | Back to Top | | |
 |  JustBrowsing Registered Member
       Date Joined Aug 2008 Total Posts : 4 | Posted 8/25/2008 8:35 AM (GMT -5) |   |
Vincentvangogo said... Teenagegreygal, I've not seen any connection with convulsions, but I read somewhere on the net that someone had noticed a connection between schizophrenia and premature greying (I've also seen this in a couple of people with the illness.) The theory was that schizophrenics might not be able to metabolize a certain vitamin (B2?) and that this led to another chemical being produced in their bodies that was close in structure to a hallucinogenic drug. I think the molecular structure of LSD is sometimes used to understand schizophrenia (the gene??) and there certainly seem to be a lot of similarities been schizophrenic episodes and people who are tripping/hallucinating, hence I thought there might be something in this theory.
Another interesting thing was that they mentioned some schizophrenics improved by simply giving them mollasses every day, which I think contains this B vitamin and I know that some people claim molasses has restored their hair to its original colour.
As you must have guessed already I am not a scientist, but perhaps someone out there can make something of all this.
- Could one of the drugs used to treat seizure disorders cause graying? - mod
A connection between convulsions and schizophrenia turns out to be vitamin D deficiency. Just surf the net with Google and the following: "schizophrenia" or "siezures" and "vitamin d deficiency".
Vitamin D boosts thyroid function. Destroy the thyroid and your hair will turn white quickly with growth.
Become severely D deficient and calcium will too since calcium depends on D for absorption. Hypocalcemia can result in tetany and siezures. | | Back to Top | | |
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