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StarGazer
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Posted 3/26/2009 9:21 AM (GMT -5)

Before people get too excited about the extlifesciences.com company that claims they have the solution to grey hair sitting in a petri dish, I vividly recall that in 1999, a small company in San Diego called Anti-Cancer, claimed they found the cure for grey hair and they had it in a lab and it would be on the market soon.

I remember sitting at the company giddy, shocked that my days of grey hair were soon over.

That was 10 years ago, folks. Here we are in 2009 and funny how we never heard again from Anti-Cancer in San Diego and their miracle cure for grey hair.

I'll get excited when such a company has proven it works on human heads and they are cashed up with investors, and most importantly, they don't have to go through 8-10 years of FDA trials.

Until then, hopefully we can find a way to cut down on the hydrogen peroxide levels ourselves.

DDye
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Posted 3/26/2009 9:24 AM (GMT -5)

This product has topical SOD but is supposed to help hair loss not pigmentation http://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item00321/Dr-Proctors-Advanced-Thinning-Hair-Treatment.html

Wonder if it could help for gray hair.

modesto
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Posted 3/27/2009 9:58 AM (GMT -5)

Vitix is a topical Catalase,SOD gel. It has already been shown to be effective in Vitiligo cases.

http://www.find-health-articles.com/rec_pub_17433173-treatment-vitiligo-narrow-band-uvb-topical-gel-containing-catalase.htm

http://www.labo-acm.com/index.php/lang-en/dermo-cosmetique/hypopigmentation-epidermique/vitixgel

http://shop.crawfordpharma.com/acatalog/Vitix.html

It is also available in tablet form.I will try to buy both and start using.

tarun_f
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Posted 3/27/2009 12:32 PM (GMT -5)

Hi guys,
Check out this article which talks more about CATSKL http://www.insidecosmeceuticals.com/hot_news/catskl--may-eliminate-cause-of-gray-hair.html

Post Edited (tarun_f) : 3/29/2009 1:54:43 PM (GMT-4)

antivitiligotablet
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Posted 3/30/2009 9:47 AM (GMT -5)

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about Vitiligo:

Vitiligo medically known as achromia, which means loss of color. Vitiligo is a disorder in which white patches of skin appear on different parts of the body. Vitiligo is more commonly known as leucoderma, which simply means white (leuco) skin (derma), i.e. a skin disorder where it loses its normal coloration. This happens because the cells that make pigment (color) in the skin are destroyed.Basically, Vitiligo can hardly be called as a disease but a skin- disorder that has more social than medical significance, especially amongst the dark skin people. Due to retarded melanin formation, there is loss of pigmentation. The Vitiligo sufferers are observed all over the world, including the white skin communities. Males and females are affected equally, inclusive of children age group. It may begin at any age. Childhood vitiligo is not uncommon.

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StarGazer
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Posted 3/31/2009 10:48 AM (GMT -5)

I'm not sure why the lef moderator allowed the anti vitiligo post here especially by the seller themself!

Pls tout your own product somewhere else. You're in the wrong place. This is the hairloss forum, not the vitiligo forum,

and this is a spam-free environment. We don't need it and won't buy it.

DDye
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Posted 3/31/2009 10:52 AM (GMT -5)

This forum member submitted the same post numerous times over several days. This one post was allowed because sometimes members have obtained information concerning an ingredient from a company's product that may help with the condition they are trying to treat. Since vitiligo is a disease of depigmentation, i allowed it on the chance that perhaps something in this product could help with gray hair.

Teen Grey
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Posted 4/13/2009 12:58 PM (GMT -5)

Up to date news - Grey Hair

Just recently, researchers at Bradford University believe they've solved the sensitive problem which has baffled us for eternity - the root cause of why hair turns grey. They believe this can ultimately lead to a breakthrough on preventing it and are now actively carrying on their research, in the hope of finding a cure.

Source: fasebj.org

"All of our hair cells make a tiny bit of hydrogen peroxide, but as we get older, this little bit becomes a lot. We bleach our hair pigment from within, and our hair turns gray and then white."

" . . . The researchers speculate that a similar breakdown in the skin could be the root cause of vitiligo."

Eiji
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Posted 4/20/2009 9:46 AM (GMT -5)

If consuming copper or PABA for reversing premature graying caused by stress, are the effects permanent as long as the stress is gone or do you need to continue consuming supplements to keep those hairs in their original colour?

xtian
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Posted 4/29/2009 9:25 AM (GMT -5)

What do you guys think if I use a cream for vitiligo directly to the scalp? Do you think it would help? And what about alpha-lipoic acid? I also red about the use of a chloride magnesium solution on the scalp....

Tom
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Posted 4/29/2009 3:42 PM (GMT -5)

I found this info and thought it would be useful here.

In Ayurveda, alternative medicine graying hair is caused by an unbalanced or excess PITTA DOSH. in traditional Chinese herbal medicine gray hair or hair loss can be caused by toxic liver or kidneys, among other issues. In both Ayurveda and Chinese herbal medicine, the following herb has been shown to stop hair from turning gray and even promote the growth of hair. It's also a hepatoprotective (protects liver) and anti inflammatory.

It is known by these names:

Eclipta prostrata
Ecliptae Prostratae
Eclipta alba
Bhringaraj leaf
Han Lian Cao

I've read some anecdotal evidence of the positive effects on curing gray hair. I didn't find any medical studies on gray hair but I did find one about hair growth HERE. As far as other health aspects I found studies regarding hepatoprotective activity and serum lipid levels.

If you do a web search and find any new information on this herb please post it.

Post Edited (Tom) : 4/29/2009 11:03:48 PM (GMT-4)

dang
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Posted 4/29/2009 4:35 PM (GMT -5)

Does anyone have any idea whether human fibroblast conditioned media-based products might have any effect in this regard?

LouD
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Posted 4/30/2009 10:25 AM (GMT -5)

antivitiligotablet said...
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Guaranteed Herbal Treatment For Vitiligo:

This company also sells a product for graying hair that they call Melotex. The ingredients:

Indian barberry
Indian Radish
Neem Bark
Neem Seed
Sulphur
Wild Onion Seed

http://melotax.com/ingredients.html

gbalme
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Posted 4/30/2009 10:46 AM (GMT -5)

Lotus flower seems to be indicated against gray hair :

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19322028?ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

Teen Grey
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Posted 5/1/2009 11:34 AM (GMT -5)

Looking forward

" . . . Moreover, there are cosmeceutical concepts which envisage the use of certain ingredients such as polypeptides or polynucleotides to introduce hair colour change before the hair emerges from the scalp15, and the use of tyrosinase to promote melanin formation inside hair follicles to eliminate grey hair from the root level.16 Another approach is to deposit melanin directly to the follicle17 such that this pigment can enter the hair shaft and mingle with the keratogenic hair matrix cells; and eventually, the hair shaft containing the “injected” melanin molecules will grow past the skin surface."

I hope this is a useful update.

Gaizz
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Posted 5/1/2009 12:29 PM (GMT -5)

9 months with Joico Re:nual Serum....... No results! I'm frustrated...

Eiji
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Posted 5/2/2009 8:04 PM (GMT -5)

How long would it be safe to take 500 mg PABA daily?

Teen Grey
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Posted 5/4/2009 9:21 AM (GMT -5)

On the other hand, another global hair colorant manufacturer (Loreal) once had a product claiming the use of 5,6-dihydorxyindole (DHI) to colour hair. Presumably this molecule is a precursor for melanin, the pigment responsible for the colour of our hair (Fig. 3). The dihydroxyindole, once inside the hair, will undergo an oxidation reaction similar to the natural process of melanin formation and finally give pigmentation to the hair.11 . . . "

xtian
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Posted 5/4/2009 3:57 PM (GMT -5)

sooooooo?

brm
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Posted 5/5/2009 9:31 AM (GMT -5)

Eiji said...
How long would it be safe to take 500 mg PABA daily?

about as safe as useless. I've been taking 1000 mg of paba daily for 2 years or so plus an amazing number of supplements. I've never seen my grey get on so quickly as these past 6 months. Of course, I am on renu serum too; 11 months on and nothing with this snake oil either. My latest shot is: double dose of blackstrap molasses in double dose of ho shou wuh. I am going to try potato boiled juice too and some other stuff I will fancy just to find myself in an as helpless situation in 3 months.

Getting a bit tired too...

Eiji
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Posted 5/5/2009 5:06 PM (GMT -5)

brm said...

Eiji said...
How long would it be safe to take 500 mg PABA daily?

Getting a bit tired too...

brm,

Are the grey hairs you are trying to reverse premature greys or due to age? Mine are premature greys due to stress. I am only 25 and my greys are in the oddest of places rather than the normal onset of grey hair which starts from the side burns or above the ears. I even have 1 grey on my right eye brow. I've had a bout of eczema on my right wrist but most of it has cleared up itself. Looks like a PABA defiency to me.

brm
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Posted 5/6/2009 9:17 AM (GMT -5)

My grey is not premature. It can even be regarded as slightly belated. Quite normal in fact. I'd kept it at bay for a long time but it's taking a sharp bend now.

In your case, you can try paba for 6 months (not less) and the often mentionned other products: internal copper (deficiencies are often related to it), topical copper peptides, pantothenic acid, ho shou wuh. Make a choice from all this. Beware of vitamin supplements on high dosages.

Some people report interesting results with black strap molasses in cases of nutrient deficiencies.

gbalme
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Posted 5/6/2009 9:18 AM (GMT -5)

Now that we know hydrogen peroxyde is probably the cause of the greying, the goal is too find how to absorb some catalase isn't it ?

There is a lot of catalase in the turnip juice (turnip juice is usually use to show the action of catalase on hydrogen peroxyde). So I think that drink a lot of turnip juice can help to destroy the hydrogen peroxide!

That should work!!? What do u think?

gbalme
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Posted 5/6/2009 10:46 AM (GMT -5)

Forget to say that SODzyme with GliSODin is also a good way to get some catalase.

https://www.lef.org/Vitamins-Supplements/Item00961/SODzyme-with-GliSODin-Wolfberry.html

brm
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Posted 5/6/2009 10:34 PM (GMT -5)

Don't you think that the topical route would be better? (to have an on site reaction rather than lose the potential reactives in the intestinal tract?)

gbalme said...
Now that we know hydrogen peroxyde is probably the cause of the greying, the goal is too find how to absorb some catalase isn't it ?

There is a lot of catalase in the turnip juice (turnip juice is usually use to show the action of catalase on hydrogen peroxyde). So I think that drink a lot of turnip juice can help to destroy the hydrogen peroxide!

That should work!!? What do u think?

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