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michealjackson
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Posted 8/23/2009 3:34 PM (GMT -5)

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Clooney Clone
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Posted 8/23/2009 3:38 PM (GMT -5)

After reading the many posts, I have put together my own array of dietary supplements in aims to reverse my gray hair.

I am 35 years old, I have had gray hair since I was 14. I am about 25% gray.

For the last week, I have been taking (orally) DMAE-H3, Fo-Ti, chelated copper, fish oil, and a multivitamin that exceeds all daily recommendations. In addition, I am using Revita shampoo to maintain hair density and health. I also started to eat clean again, all natural foods, nothing out of a can or a box. I have been drinking nearly a gallon of water per day and have lowered my sodium intake to about 1500 mg per day. Furthermore, I lift weights 5 days per week and do cadiovascular activity 3 days a week.

After one week, I am noticing that my face appears to have a certain glow to it and I also feel a lot younger. The fine lines in my face are slowly disappearing, and some of the gray hairs in my chin hair are coming in brown again after shaving. I haven't noticed much change in my temple area yet, but I plan on giving this regimen plenty of time.

I will keep everyone up to date with my progress. Even if my hair remains gray, I will feel younger, look younger, and have an improvement in brain function.

Aman
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Posted 8/24/2009 7:13 AM (GMT -5)

Clooney Clone, even if you don't get a reversal in gray hair, you're making the right lifestyle changes.

AussieDavid
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Posted 8/31/2009 1:08 PM (GMT -5)

Clooney Clone said...

After one week, I am noticing that my face appears to have a certain glow to it and I also feel a lot younger. The fine lines in my face are slowly disappearing, and some of the gray hairs in my chin hair are coming in brown again after shaving. I haven't noticed much change in my temple area yet, but I plan on giving this regimen plenty of time.

Good lifestyle changes, but if your gray hairs are coming in brown after just one week then it's truly miraculous. Take some pics now and again in six months so you can make a good comparison.

Gaizz
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Posted 8/31/2009 1:11 PM (GMT -5)

xtian said...
I ordered the Grenical the 22nd of July. The product is not arrived yet, I wrote them many times but no one answers ... I'm seriously thinking of talking with the postal police.

Any News??

xtian
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Posted 8/31/2009 1:58 PM (GMT -5)

Yes, the stuff has arrived, but no e-mail responses to any of my previous questions about the money back guarantee. Still I can't tell anything about the efficacy, since only a week has passed... Thanx for your interest.

gotsomegray
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Posted 8/31/2009 4:41 PM (GMT -5)

I've been plucking some of my grays recently, and last night I plucked one that had definitely re-colored itself at the base. It was a hair of about 1.5 inches in length with the tip being about 1/2 inch gray and the inch base having full color. I know that others on this board have also had this experience on isolated occasions, but it was still nice to see with my own eyes that a gray hair can regain it's color. The only supplements I have taken recently that I might attribute this to is an antioxidant with SOD and catalase that I took a few months ago. It's the only hair I have found like that so I think it is more likely to be an unrelated freak occurence.

jamieh
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Posted 9/2/2009 7:24 AM (GMT -5)

Hi there,

What SOD/catalase supplement are you taking?

gotsomegray
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Posted 9/2/2009 8:49 AM (GMT -5)

I was taking the source naturals "super sprouts plus" which contained SOD, catalase, glutathione peroxidase, and methionine reductase. That being said, I am not at all confident that there is a correlation between that and my reversed hair. Who knows? I could be wrong, but it was just one hair. I figured taking antioxidants on occasion is a good thing and I was definitely wanting something with catalase.

TruthSayer29
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Posted 9/8/2009 9:34 AM (GMT -5)

Melotex is a SCAM!

The product comes from Pakistan and it smells like rotten M&Ms.

Here is proof positive (Melotex, hurry up and modify your website...)

Here is the list of ingredients in Melotex:

http://melotax.com/ingredients.html

Here is the list of ingredients in Acnetex

http://botanical-sources.com/ingredients.html

Funny how the ingredients for stopping acne and for reversing grey hair are the same....

Call your credit card company and tell them to not support these people as vendors anymore, they are petty thieves.

davenis
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Posted 9/8/2009 11:47 AM (GMT -5)

yes, melotex is the company that is based in Italy, i e-mailed them for before and after pictures they said they would post later. I once order a product for gray hair from a place in London. This product also came from Pakistan. It smelled bad as well. I tried taking it several times and it gave me terrible stomach cramps. I ended up throwing it out. I asked for a refund and my money was returned from the company that does the billing.

Tom
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Posted 9/14/2009 7:44 AM (GMT -5)

Some of this might have been brought up before but I tried to put it into perspective:

A recent study has shown that hydrogen peroxide (H202) accumulates in hair shafts due to the reduction of the enzyme catalase (1). Catalase is an enzyme found in the liver that "catalyses"; (i.e. accelerates a chemical reaction) the decomposition of H202 to water and oxygen. Studies have shown that low levels of the catalase enzyme cause a rise in H202 levels resulting in hair being self-bleached, so-to-speak.

It is well known that ROS or reactive oxygen species have been implicated in many diseases including damage to DNA and the mitochondria. Methionine residues and cysteine residues of proteins are particularly sensitive to oxidation by ROS. Methionine is an essential sulfur-containing, free-form amino acid. If enough methionine is present, the body can synthesize cysteine and thus glutathione. Glutathione production is important because it is key in the removal of hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) (2). Cysteine is important as well because it contributes to the synthesis of pheomelanin, a type of pigment made from melanocytes.

Most cells contain methionine sulfoxide reductase A and B protein that catalyze these ROS induced methionine residues back to methionine (3). However in gray hair it has been demonstrated an almost absence of both catalase and methionine reductase protein (1). Unresolved methionine residues interfere with the enzyme tyrosinase; which is the enzyme that allows melanin to be formed from tyrosine (4). The inability of methionine recycling also causes a reduction in the amount of methionine produced and thus the reduction of cysteine and consequently glutathione. This reduction in cysteine also decreases produciton of pheomelanin.

Consequently, methionine is also converted to homocysteine but then converted back to methionine. Aging and genetic defects can cause improper conversion of homocysteine to methionine causing a rise in homocysteine and a release of pro-inflammatory cytokines resulting in follicular micro-inflammation. Smoking is a major cause (5). This can result in disruption of the hair cycle and melanin production leading to hair loss and loss of hair pigment.

Graying of the hair is an indicator of oxidative stress induced melanocyte apoptosis and gray hair can also be an indicator of the oxidative stress level thought the entire body. The graying hair follicle, therefore, offers a unique model system to study oxidative stress and aging and to test antiaging therapeutics in their ability to slow down or even stop the aging process (6).

DIET

Proanthocyanidins found in apples (mostly green apples), cinnamon, cocoa increases catalase, superoxide dismutase and glutathione peroxidase ratios, and glutathione reductase and glutathione transferase activities. (8)

Cystine: Eggs are the one of the highest sources and sesame seeds.

Methionine: Sesame seeds, pistachios, macadamias, brazil nuts, kidney beans and black beans, fish, meats.

SUPPLEMENTATION

Vitamin B6 and Trimethylglycine (TMG) - can facilitate better conversion of homocysteine to methionine and thus help to decrease inflammation and assist in proper methionine levels.

Cystine - Undenatured whey protein (LEF Enhanced Whey Protein)

Ascorbate (vitamin C) - spares glutathione; it increases mitochondrial glutathione in glutathione-deficient animals. Glutathione and ascorbate function together in protecting mitochondria from oxidative damage. (7)

GliSODin® - a melon extract has been shown to increase SOD and catalase and glutathione and promotes the cellular antioxidant status and protects against oxidative stress-induced cell death. (LEF - SODzyme® with GliSODin® & Wolfberry). (10), (11)

Pycnogenol - French pine bark extract is high in Proanthocyanidins which increases catalase, superoxide dismutase and glutathione peroxidase ratios, and glutathione reductase and glutathione transferase activities. (8). Pycnogenol also supports healthy circulation by improving capillary integrity and by stimulating the release of vascular endothelial Nitric Oxide (eNO) (9). Nitric oxide plays an important role in the regulation of normal vascular, neurological and immune functions. Among other things this can lead to greater uptake of nutrients in the hair follicle and improved immune response to stress.

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References:

(1) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19237503
(2) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17886026
(3) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15680221
(4) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9372907
(5) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12673073
(6) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16723385
(7) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7599223
(8) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12204329
(9) http://www.pycnogenol.com/consumer/consumer_research_library.php
(10) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15742357
(11) http://www.glisodin.org/glisodin.htm

Post Edited (Tom) : 9/18/2009 9:26:16 PM (GMT-4)

Fumpa
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Posted 9/17/2009 1:52 PM (GMT -5)

Has anyone had any luck with taking catalase? I'm just curious if taken catalase as a supplement would actually work?

Tom
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Posted 9/18/2009 9:21 AM (GMT -5)

Oral supplements for catalase as well as SOD and glutathione are most likely digested and degraded before they can reach the tissues of the body. It would most likely be a waste of money to take them directly as supplements. It would be better to take the building blocks to help the body make these naturally. A sublingual, transdermal or injectable form might work although I'm not sure if there is such a thing.

My opinions and knowledge concerning health and fitness are based on over two decades of extensive research, personal practice, consultation and as a consumer advocate. I am not a physician. My views and comments on the subjects are not intended to substitute for informed, professional medical advice.

Teen Grey
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Posted 9/18/2009 11:17 AM (GMT -5)

Has anyone tried the below company? It states that grey hair is curable within 30 days or money back guarateed.

http://www.pigmeton.com/

Teen Grey
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Posted 9/18/2009 11:30 AM (GMT -5)

Enzyme treatment stops hair turning grey

The appearance of grey hair usually marks the start of an impossible battle to hold back time. But scientists claim they may now be able to stop they greying process altogether.

By Richard Gray, Science Correspondent
Published: 9:00PM BST 20 Jun 2009

"Researchers have developed a new treatment which protects the cells that provide hair with its pigment, allowing people to keep their natural colour for longer.

"The hair whitening process is slow and is progressive, so we can prevent it," said Dr Bruno Bernard, head of hair biology at L'Oreal in Paris, the company which carried out the research."

Dr Bernard and his team have discovered that while melanocyte stem cells in the skin, which does not lose its colour with age, have a crucial enzyme called TRP-2, this enzyme is missing in the hair follicle stem cells. . . "

Fumpa
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Posted 9/21/2009 8:06 AM (GMT -5)

Tom said...
Oral supplements for catalase as well as SOD and glutathione are most likely digested and degraded before they can reach the tissues of the body. It would most likely be a waste of money to take them directly as supplements. It would be better to take the building blocks to help the body make these naturally. A sublingual, transdermal or injectable form might work although I'm not sure if there is such a thing.

Thanks for the information Tom. Bummer though. That's what I was what I was actually wondering about (if catalase supplements get broken down). Oh well.

I have a few other questions for you, or anyone else. And I apologize if any of these have already been covered.

1) What foods or supplements are the building blocks for catalase?

2) How about a topical catalase? Would that work?

3) Laser treatment: The following is a link to a page that covers one persons success with reversing graying using lasers.

http://www.overmachogrande.com/index.php?/omg/personal_notes/noticeable_reduction_of_gray_hair/

Has anyone else found success using lasers? Any thoughts on using lasers to reverse graying?

Thanks.

modesto
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Posted 9/21/2009 8:07 AM (GMT -5)

GREAT NEWS: L'OREAL VERY NEAR TREATMENT FOR GREY HAIR.

This patent has just been published:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7585514.html

It seems that it will be available in 3 forms lotion,shampoo and treatment gel and will
be based on "Agent mimicking DOPAchrome tautomerase activity". It says that "After three months of application, repigmentation of body hair or head hair of the treated area is observed".

Jenek
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Posted 9/21/2009 8:08 AM (GMT -5)

I have been using years AINTEROL products. They offer really strong Krachaidam (Black Thai Galingale) capsules. 100 capsule x 500 mg each. I used to have greyish hair (sides), but all is fine by now. I had some libido issues also and all was fixed at the same time. You can find KRACHAIDAM (Black Thai Galingale) from MALE ENHANCEMENT section. (www.ainterol.us )

mrhealthguy
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Posted 9/21/2009 8:08 AM (GMT -5)

Hi, also having bad grey hair problems. Anyone can help?

Slider
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Posted 9/21/2009 8:10 AM (GMT -5)

Tom

Good post and i agree it is not possible to increase catalase by ingestion. I think it would have to be topically applied.

Interesting

http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?IA=EP2006001545&DISPLAY=DESC

Fumpa
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Posted 9/21/2009 12:08 PM (GMT -5)

Oops. Sorry for just skimming your earlier post Tom. I read through it thoroughly and saw that certain food were listed that increase the production of catalase. That answers question 1 from my previous post. Of course any other known foods to add to that list would be helpful, but I'm glad to see that cocoa is on the list you provided :).

Tom
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Posted 9/22/2009 9:36 AM (GMT -5)

Fumpa said...
Oops. Sorry for just skimming your earlier post Tom. I read through it thoroughly and saw that certain food were listed that increase the production of catalase. That answers question 1 from my previous post. Of course any other known foods to add to that list would be helpful, but I'm glad to see that cocoa is on the list you provided :).

What about trying GliSODin®? The studies seem promising. Hair grows in cycles though so you wouldn't see dramatic results if it worked (1-2 years perhaps?)

Aged garlic extract like Kyolic is high in the cysteine derivatives: S-alylcysteine, S-allylmercaptocysteine, S-1-propenylcysteine - Cysteine is a important component in hair. Sulfur containing foods are high in cysteine.

For glutathione: asparagus, walnuts, avocados and watermelon.

gotsomegray
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Posted 9/22/2009 10:06 AM (GMT -5)

modesto said...
GREAT NEWS: L'OREAL VERY NEAR TREATMENT FOR GREY HAIR.

This patent has just been published:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/7585514.html

It seems that it will be available in 3 forms lotion,shampoo and treatment gel and will
be based on "Agent mimicking DOPAchrome tautomerase activity". It says that "After three months of application, repigmentation of body hair or head hair of the treated area is observed".

That is good news. It looks like the patent was approved on 9/8/2009. I have no idea how long that might take before a product is developed, but I'm still happy to hear it. I will call L'Oreal to see if I can find any details. I realize that their customer service lines probably don't have information on something like this, but I can't help myself from trying to find more info.

Fumpa
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Posted 9/23/2009 11:05 AM (GMT -5)

Thanks again Tom for the information.

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