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Nola
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   Posted 9/15/2005 6:27 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Has anyone checked into the possibility of their graying resulting from hypothyroidism?

I read that prematurely gray hair is often a sign of thyroid dysfunction. Research of patients with hypothyroidism shows the treatment of their disease reverses their premature graying within months. Treatment is taking thyroid hormone, Synthroid.

Because of the prevalence of this disease, especially in women, you should get your TSH and Thyroid antibodies tested. Other symptoms of hypothyroidism are: cold hands and feet, fatigue, depression, forgetfulness, thinning hair, and dry skin.
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   Posted 9/15/2005 8:32 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Synthroid is an artificial thyroid medication and not the best kind to do the job. about gray hair? Don't I wish...it hasn't worked for me or other people I know. Armour thyroid and Naturthroid are two natural medications. There are others but I can't think of their names ...
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   Posted 9/16/2005 2:46 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Hi guys and gals,

There is something for renewed hair growth. You all will be floored by this product. It does work, and there have been many clinical studies confirming its extreme efficacy. I even spoke at length to the Amercian manufacturer named David Kern, and he informed me that a Japanese researcher named Dr. Lee has been studying these phytochemicals for 35 years. David and his wife have been to Cornell to interview this scientist and were astounded by the research. Go to www.applepoly.com. Good luck. Oh, I am currently on it and it is amazing. I was balding in the front, and on top. No more. Its growing back fast. Believe me, this is no hype.

Kola

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   Posted 9/17/2005 10:01 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Kola said...

Hi guys and gals,

There is something for renewed hair growth. You all will be floored by this product. It does work, and there have been many clinical studies confirming its extreme efficacy. I even spoke at length to the Amercian manufacturer named David Kern, and he informed me that a Japanese researcher named Dr. Lee has been studying these phytochemicals for 35 years. David and his wife have been to Cornell to interview this scientist and were astounded by the research. Go to www.applepoly.com. Good luck. Oh, I am currently on it and it is amazing. I was balding in the front, and on top. No more. Its growing back fast. Believe me, this is no hype.

Kola

Hmm.  Looks pretty expensive and similar to what you would get by adding apple cider vinegar to your shampoo.  Hair loss products without definitive before and after pictures are dubious at best.  It does seem clear that a myriad of antioxidants appears to benefit hair loss.  But there are certainly other factors such as DHT, stress, minerals, nitric oxide, etc.
 
Check out google usenet group alt.baldspot they talk about every single hair loss remedy so you can weed out the useful ones.
 
It is interesting to note that there seems to be more women complaining of hair loss in recent decades than previously.  What could be the cause of this:  More stress?, More prohormones in our food?, Less minerals in our food?, toxins in junk food?  More mercury in our diet?  Or is it simply that it is reported more often?
 
One thing is for sure....when a hair loss product with _astonishing_ results
comes out you will hear about it everywhere.
 
It is likely that the eventual cures that intervene in many of these processes will be by turning (back) on genes that control regeneration,
 
 
 
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   Posted 9/22/2005 9:53 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Fumpa,
Feel free to email me anything you find out on reversing grey and I can do the same. I'm 35 with no grey hair in head. Only some facial grey. Would like to reverse it now while it seems less daunting.
 
 
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   Posted 9/30/2005 8:20 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Folks. I had to register today because I need to post this info:
Last month, I started going to see an accupuncturist for wrinkle treatment (I rather do this than botox). I mentioned to her that I started getting grey hair. She recommended:
1) Fu Fang Shou Wu Pian - 4 tablets with warm water two times a day
2) A tablespoon of Black Sesame power - mix with water and honey for taste every morning
(She noted that since Sesame is oily, don't take it at night for the reason that it will cause weight gain)
Well... guess what, my six year old Grey Hair Patrol pulled out a few grey hairs this morning and the roots are BLACK!
I am soooo very excited.
Oh, FYI, you can buy this Shou Wu Pian in Chinese herb store or on the internet, $6, $7 bucks for 100 pills.
I am using Fu Fang Shou Wu Pian. Black Sesame powder can be found in any Oriental Market or herbal store. You must make sure to buy the pure one. Dont buy the ones that are either sweeten or fillered with flour.
Also, I mix this power in my Soy Bean Milk drink.
I am interested in learning about other people's results.
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   Posted 10/2/2005 10:45 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Shadow, keep us posted about the roots. As an aside, I'd rethink the soybean milk unless it has been fermented. Soy can have a bad effect on the thyroid.
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   Posted 10/4/2005 10:49 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
hi:   Your best bet is He Shou Wu (100%) .... a Chinese herb that is very effective especially at your young age.   You must be consistent and patient.   It may take 5 or six months or less. yeah
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   Posted 10/4/2005 5:17 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Right. Fu Fang Shou Wu Pian IS He Shou Wu. Also, take note of what Leppert said there about soybean milk. BTW, you can make this sesame power with olong tea - Yes, it does look nasty, but it actually tastes quite good. The sesame power is very aromatic.
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   Posted 10/5/2005 6:12 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Ho Shou wu is only one element of the traditional chinese formula for gray hair (read the rest of the thread). It is often sold in an unprepared manner which reduces effectiveness.
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   Posted 10/7/2005 5:46 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The most promising treatment seems to me to be the Loreal precursor molecule for melanin, dihydroxyl-5.6-indole:
 
         - see the 2nd to last paragraph.
 
I would really like more info from Loreal on a time frame for market release, however, they've not responded to my enquiry. The wording seems to indicate that to some degree the technology is already working.

While other treatments discussed here would seem to have some hope of success in a portion of the population, I see no reason why the above wouldn't work in 100% of cases?
Has anyone any insights on this, or know of how to obtain more information on this?
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   Posted 10/18/2005 11:41 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
US PATENT: 20050208086
 
another patent describing the use of a shampoo or lotion in the treatment of gray hair. here is a paragraph from the patent
 
A cosmetic composition useful for combating canities, comprising a thus effective amount of at least one active agent inducing the expression of DOPAchrome tautomerase selected from the group consisting of hexamethylene bisacetamide (HMBA), glycyrrhizin, a modulator of an endogenous factor situated upstream of the promoter for the DOPAchrome tautomerase (TRP-2), an expression vector encoding DOPAchrome tautomerase (TRP-2), an expression vector encoding an agent inducing the expression of DOPAchrome tautomerase (TRP-2), and Sox10, formulated into a cosmetically acceptable medium therefor
 
 
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   Posted 10/18/2005 11:41 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
US PATENT: 20050214821
 
 
This is a patent filed by Loreal paris about reversing grey hair by fixing the genetic problem that causes it. apparently by administering "polynucleotide fragments" in a form of lotion or shampoo you can reverse grey hair. This patent is only brand new but hopefully a shampoo isn't far away. Its reassuring that it is in the hands of a big international company that would have the ability to release it quickly to the market. let me know what you all think.

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   Posted 10/20/2005 10:09 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
greyboy said...
US PATENT: 20050214821
 
 
This is a patent filed by Loreal paris about reversing grey hair by fixing the genetic problem that causes it. apparently by administering "polynucleotide fragments" in a form of lotion or shampoo you can reverse grey hair. This patent is only brand new but hopefully a shampoo isn't far away. Its reassuring that it is in the hands of a big international company that would have the ability to release it quickly to the market. let me know what you all think.

Sounds like pTpT Thymidine Dinucleotide which was used to tan the skins of pigs and was going to be developed into a sunless tanning cream.
 
 
pTpT are little DNA fragments that the body uses to repair damaged DNA.  They are also a a pigmentation signal so it would be unclear if the effect was through DNA repair or through stimulation of pigmentation response.
 
 
It would be interesting if the effect was through DNA repair but less so if it is simply stimulating an already tired system.  Topical tyrosinase and DOPA like compunds are, IMHO also likely to be simply stimulating a worn out system and would be of limited us long term (like taking a cup of coffee to stimulate adrenals instead of giving them fuel like pantothenic acid <oversimplified> )
 

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   Posted 11/1/2005 3:01 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
 
HELLO GREYBOY
 
IVE CHECKED THE LOREAL PATENT AND IT SEEMS PROMISING.
 
ITS, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE FIRST GRAY HAIR REVERSAL STRATEGY THAT GOES TO THE "ROOTS" OF THE PROBLEM-GENETICS.
 
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN LOREAL WILL LAUNCH A PRODUCT IN THE MARKET? WILL IT BE EXPENSIVE?
 
THANKS
 
"SEEK AND U SHALL FIND"
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   Posted 11/4/2005 2:12 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

I cant seem to find anything as to when it will be released. I can't see it being too long given the capabilities of the company. The only thing that worries me is the price?


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   Posted 11/4/2005 4:23 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
alfax said...
 
HELLO GREYBOY
 
IVE CHECKED THE LOREAL PATENT AND IT SEEMS PROMISING.
 
ITS, AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE FIRST GRAY HAIR REVERSAL STRATEGY THAT GOES TO THE "ROOTS" OF THE PROBLEM-GENETICS.
 
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN LOREAL WILL LAUNCH A PRODUCT IN THE MARKET? WILL IT BE EXPENSIVE?
 
THANKS
 
"SEEK AND U SHALL FIND"
The DNA fragments don't have aything to do with altering your own genetics.  It acts as a melanin stimulator.
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   Posted 11/10/2005 2:54 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I recently found this PEPPERIE :

Could anybody that tries this post the results.

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   Posted 12/30/2005 12:26 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Do you remember Amber?
Is she still alive???
 
 

Post Edited By Moderator (DDye) : 1/11/2006 4:30:28 PM (GMT-5)

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   Posted 12/30/2005 12:28 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hello! this thread has stopped in its tracks, dead end??, Is Loreal our only hope?? There was a product that I used which was not a dye but a stimulant which worked quite well but not 100%, that was called restoria. You had to apply it daily.
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   Posted 12/31/2005 10:55 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

look at this:

Jun 27, 2005

Bean extract may prevent gray hair


Biosci Biotechnol Biochem. 2005 May;69(5):873-82.

Hot-Water Extracts from Adzuki Beans (Vigna angularis) Stimulate Not Only Melanogenesis in Cultured Mouse B16 Melanoma Cells but Also Pigmentation of Hair Color in C3H Mice.

Itoh T, Furuichi Y. Imuraya Confectionary Co., Ltd.

A hot-water extract of adzuki was obtained by boiling beans of adzuki (Vigna angularis) . . . These results suggest that the addition of Wex activates the adenylcyclase and protein kinase pathways and, as a result, stimulates melanogenesis. WEx was found to have pigmentation activity on hair color in C3H mice. It might be useful in anti-graying, protecting human skin from irradiation.

 

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Will gray hair become a thing of the past?
This Japanese study showed how hot-water extract from boiled adzuki beans (Vigna angularis) stimulates melanin production in both cultured melanoma cells from mice and in the hair of mice which were fed the extract.

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   Posted 12/31/2005 11:13 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

 what are this beans:

The Adzuki Bean


adzuki bean; azuki bean [ah-ZOO-kee; AH-zoo-kee] A small, dried, russet-colored bean with a sweet flavor. Adzuki beans can be purchased whole or powdered at Asian markets. They are particularly popular in Japanese cooking where they're used in confections such as the popular YOKAN, made with adzuki-bean paste and AGAR. See also BEANS.

from THE FOOD LOVER'S COMPANION, 2nd edition, by Sharon Tyler Herbst, Barron's Educational Services, Inc.

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These are small, reddish-brown beans, rounded in shape with a point at one end. They have a strong, nutty, sweet flavour, and are much used in the macrobiotic diet, because as Eunice Farmilañt says in Macrobiotic Cooking they are "the most yang of Beans". They probably originate from China, and are imported from China and Thailand where they are harvested in November and December. In the Orient, adzuki beans are usually cooked to a red soft consistency and served with such ingredients as coconut milk. They are also cooked with rice, their bright colour tinting the rice an attractive pink, as in the Japanese, Red-cooked Festival Rice. In the East it's also common to find, adzuki beans sweetened with sugar and made into cakes and sweetmeats.

From The Bean Book by Rose Elliot, Fontana/Collins. ISBN 0 00 635536

 

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   Posted 1/2/2006 2:33 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I TEND TO THINK STRESS IS THE MAIN CULPRIT. I'VE HAD ANXIETY ATTACKS SINCE MAYBE 9 YRS OLD AND FIRST NOTICED GRAYS AT 17. I WOULD CONCLUDE THEN THAT IF YOU GET IT LATER IN LIFE ITS B/C OF THE INCREASE IN CORTISOL. I'VE READ THAT VIT C SUPRESSES CORTISOL AND IF I REMEMBER WELL WHEN I WAS WORKING OUT TWICE A DAY AND DRINKING A GALLON OF O.J. A DAY I HAD NO GREY HAIRS. WHEN I NEGLECT TO EXERCISE AND THEREFORE DON'T NEED A GALL OF O.J. THE GRAYS RETURN FROM THE DEAD. THIS OF COURSE IS ALL ANECDOTAL PLUS A BIT OF LOGIC THROWN IN.
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   Posted 1/11/2006 5:29 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The full Adzuki bean paper can be found at the following url:
http://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article/bbb/69/5/873/_pdf
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   Posted 1/11/2006 6:16 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
It would be interesting if someone tried to make this extract (following the procedures described in the paper) and experimented on themself for some months.
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