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alfax
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| Posted 4/12/2006 4:57 PM (GMT -5) |   | Aussie
In Australia u dont have BIMATOPROST? its sold in the US AS A TREATMENT FOR GLAUCOMA UNDER THE NAME-LUMIGAN-I THINK. IT COSTS AROUND 30 US DOLARS A BOTTLE (EYE DROPS).
IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF U APPLIED THE DROPS ON THE AFFECTED AREAS OF YOUR SCALP DAILY FOR A FEW MONTHS AND TAKE A BEFORE/AFTER PICTURE.
Bimatoprost is supposed not only to reverse gray hair but also to enhance hair growth. | | Back to Top | | |
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alfax
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| Posted 4/13/2006 12:15 PM (GMT -5) | | Hi Aussie
Check United states patent: 20050058614.In the US patents site u can download it free of charge.
It seems that the BIMATOPROST is safe and well tolerated, (BUT CHECK THE PATENT IF U ARE WORRIED). | | Back to Top | | |
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Bao Saka
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| Posted 4/13/2006 12:17 PM (GMT -5) | | | This is not a joke. Who said it's a joke! If you want to be successful, then try it your self.
From my Traditional Medicine book:
1.) In order to reverse or to get back your own hair color: The book said: Grind the garlic and add water then wash your hair with this garlic water, but I've never tried.
2.) This is my proven method and we are using and we are happy with. Galingale is the name.
This creamy white-fleshed rhizome is often used as a substitute for GINGER. In Lao Traditional Medicine Called: SomLao, some people called:"Kasai in Lao, In Thai " Krachai" in Vietnamese"Ngai bun".... Galingale can be found in Asian markets.
There are: Black Galingale ( KasaiDam), more powerful, gives dark color and Brown or yellow Galingale, less expensive, gives blonde or brown color to your hair. It's called black because inside is black, not outside. It looks like ginger but smaller with long fingers on it. It can be found in the form of: tea bag, frozen or fresh.
Grind it, blend it, chop it then add water (1/2 lb for 4l of water), leave it for a while then filter it. Drink it 2-3 glasses/day. For good taste: add honey and lemon or lime juice. 2-4 weeks later, you will see your hair turning the color. Good for heart, balancing hormone, boost immune system, kidneys, cure back pain, may help in your sex life and manopause. Have a good day from Bao Saka! 3 months later, you will come here and say thanks to me.
If you are successful, hope you will not forget me for this little lesson. To donate to my kids'education fund with paypal, click on this link:
For individual use only, contact me for commercial purposes.
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BartSimpson
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| Posted 4/13/2006 12:21 PM (GMT -5) | | Next month I am going to start Shou Wu (Fo-Ti). Planning on buying 8 bottles (have to order from the US :( ).
I read a couple statements saying it helped against white hair. But none were 100% trustful.
ANY ONE TREATMENT THAT HELP?
I need to fight this. I will not give up like this. | | Back to Top | | |
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lei.talk
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| Posted 4/14/2006 11:14 AM (GMT -5) | | | | |
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BartSimpson
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| Posted 4/14/2006 1:13 PM (GMT -5) | | Can you tell the name of the product that you are using and also where did you buy it!
I'm going to try that. I'm desperate. : (
Please answer soon!
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AussieDavid
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| Posted 4/16/2006 6:16 PM (GMT -5) | | |
More on the tyrosine theory...here is a link I just found with reference to tyrosine and Loreal's research:
I think tyrosine and copper supplementation is definitely worth a try.
I have decided to dump my daily zinc tablet. I think I get enough from my 'Mens-Multi' and might be getting too much zinc by having the additional zinc tablet. I started the zinc suppementation about 2 years ago and the graying has spread rapidly over that time, though it my just be nature at play.
I last coloured my hair 2 weeks ago and am due to do it again in a week. I mentioned in a recent post that I was shedding heaps of hair. Well, I am now getting heaps of regrowth...some of it gray, some of it brown. That's normal for my frontal hairline. Amongst all of the grey's however is something interesting. There are two hairs which are gray at the tip (about 6mm) and brown at the root. I have only been able to find two hairs and I have spent hours looking at my hairline. I have taken some photos and will post them if someone can tell me where to do it. Like I said, it is only 2 hairs. Hardly anything to get too excited about, but it gives me some hope that maybe things are starting to happen (or maybe it is just natural for that to occur?) If it is because of supplementation, it's either the He Shou Wu or the cat's claw, as I haven't yet recieved my order of GH3, or SODzyme. I've also just ordered a multi-vitamin with copper in it, and am about to order some tyrosine. | | Back to Top | | |
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David Morgan
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| Posted 4/16/2006 6:25 PM (GMT -5) | | Magnesium Dependent Reversible Conversion of Black to Gray Hair in Piebald Rats.
Galt, RM; Laing, GH; Hass, GM
Post-weanling, piebald, black and white rats were fed a low magnesium (3-5 mg% of Mg) synthetic diet. Pair-fed controls were fed the same diet enriched with 65 mg% of Mg. Within 6-8 weeks, the black hair of deficient rats but not that of pair-fed controls slowly turned gray. Addition of excess amino acid precursors of eumelanin to the diet did not prevent graying. Upon repletion of the deficient rats with Mg, the gray hair was slowly replaced by black hair. Microscopically, the shafts, keratinocytes and melanocytes of gray hair proved to be partly depleted of eumelanin. Furthermore, the gray hair and white hair sheared from deficient rats were both greatly depleted of Mg. The data indicated that graying was closely related to retardation of weight gain and rate of growth of hair, complicated by a specific effect of Mg deprivation on the acitivty of hair matrix enzymes responsible for melanogenesis.
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BartSimpson
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| Posted 4/16/2006 10:19 PM (GMT -5) | | You don't know how happy this makes me!
I'm thrilled.
Please post detailed info about your regimen and the pics asap.
Which brand of tyrosine are you planning on buying? Please advise me.
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BartSimpson
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| Posted 4/17/2006 12:02 PM (GMT -5) | | Hummm...
Vitamin E, I have read a couple things about it. Maybe it helps.
I'm still planning on buying Shou Wu.
Probably going to buy it tomorrow, when i have more time.
Let keep this uptodate guys, maybe we can find a way to prevent this | | Back to Top | | |
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biggarrison
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| Posted 4/17/2006 4:52 PM (GMT -5) | | | Just curious - is there any one in the NYC area that is willing to help me track my progress? My cam won't zoom in close enough to get a clear shot, and I think it would be interesting for someone neutral to monitor me results. Just a thought. | | Back to Top | | |
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BartSimpson
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| Posted 4/18/2006 2:27 PM (GMT -5) | | Not from NYC, but if you get clear pictures, I can track it with you.
I bought yesterday 4 boxes of 45 pills - 100 mg of cat's claw. Im going to start taking 300 mg daily. I'm also taking 3 pill food daily.
Next paycheck Im ordering the L-tyrosine and the Fo-Ti. | | Back to Top | | |
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lei.talk
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| Posted 4/18/2006 2:30 PM (GMT -5) | |
AussieDavid said...
Hi lei.talk,
Also, is it possible to have too much zinc? I noticed a post from the moderator referring to the zinc/copper ratio and getting the balance right.
almost ten years ago,
we received a case of free zma from snac
(an outfit completely unknown to us, at the time).
it was not injectable,
so, dan gave it to me.
with in less than a week,
my voice did sound more gravelly,
my electric razor was struggling
to chew its way through my morning stubble
which was noticeably thicker and stiffer to the touch,
my girl-friend was irresistible - morning and evening -
and my female trainees were a great temptation.
during the next few months,
i began to creep back up toward three-fifteen
on my bench-press and squats
(a weight i had said good-bye to
as "man-o-pause" took its toll).
was my greying hair a co-incidence
or the result of a zinc/copper imbalance?
i am unwilling to reduce my zinc in-take
to find out. besides, girls seem to find the contrast
between my grey hair and my physique more attractive
- although they are surprised that all of my hair is grey
(for some reason they assumed
that only the hair on your head turns grey).
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AussieDavid
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| Posted 4/19/2006 12:17 PM (GMT -5) | | |
I have posted pics of one of my hairs that has a brown root, but grey tip. Like I said in my earlier post, I have only found 2 such hairs so far, so it's nothing to get too excited about.
The pics are here:
http://www.fotothing.com/AussieDavid/photo/00b56a0bba607ef1088ac6491646da18/
My hair routine as of today is as follows:
To attempt to reverse the greying:
1) 'Shou Wu Pian' - (Plum Flower Brand). Taking 9 caps/day. Been taking this brand for about 3 months. I've ordered a different brand (see point 2) and am just finishing this brand off.
2) 'He Shou Wu' (same thing as Shou Wu Pian) - 6 capsules a day of Active Herb, Hair Vive brand. Started this brand about 2 weeks ago. Have bought 6 bottles (80 x 400 mg caps/bottle). When I have finished the Plum Flower Brand, I will double the dose of this Active Herb version for the next month or two.
3) Cats claw liquid - 5ml/day, mixed with 'Apple and Blackcurrent' Juice. It tastes gross, but I'll persevere. Been taking this for about 6 weeks.
4) L-Tyrosine powder - 6 grams a day of Musashi Brand (Just started this yesterday)
5) 0.5 mcg Silica tablet - 1 per day (called Schuessler Tissue Salts). Started this yesterday.
6) Have ordered SODzyme...still waiting for it to turn up in the post.
7) Have ordered GH3...still waiting for it to turn up in the post.
8) Have ordered the following two multivitamin/mineral suppelments: 'Neuro-Natural General' and 'Total Balance Men's Range', both by xtend-life. I was looking for copper supplementation and that is why I have chosen these two products. I also noticed that LEF also has copper in their 'Mix' as well as a Twinlab 2 mg copper supplement.
9) Up until this week, I have been taking 1/2 IU of HGH, 5 nights/week. I am taking a break from the HGH. I'm not sure if the reward/risk ratio is personally worth it for me.
To prevent hair loss, my routine is as follows:
1) 1/4 Proscar/day
2) 7% Minoxidil + 0.01% Retinoic Acid solution - 1 ml to scalp twice a day
3) 320 mg saw palmetto/day
4) Frequent use of Hairmax Lasercomb
5) Frequent use of a UV wand
I'm a walking experiment. 
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AussieDavid
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| Posted 4/19/2006 12:23 PM (GMT -5) | | | Aloha Lei.talk.
The article that threw me the most in regards to the LEF Mix quality was this one:
There were a few other smaller articles I found when I googled, but having just spent the last hour doing more research, I stand corrected about my statement regarding the quality of the LEF product. I was basically searching the net, comparing vitamins and trying to find the best multivitamin I could. LEF MIX certainly tops them all as far as the ingredients go. In the end it came down to two choices for me: LEF MIX, or a company in New Zealand called xtend-life. Because I wanted copper supplementation, I chose the following 2 products:
and
Paying a USD $110 annual subscription for LEF was 'in the mix' when it came to deciding between the two (I live in Australia, so subscription is more expensive than for USA residents). Having said that though, I have only ordered a 2 months supply from 'xtend-life' and may well give LEF a go afterwards. I see LEF has a stand alone Twinlab copper supplement, so taking that in addition to the LEF mix (1 mg copper) may be a solution.
You say that you 'have fun' with your grey hair, yet you also talk of 'the three different supplements that accidentaly restored my hair-color all worked for me - as long as I used them'. Does that mean that you let your hair alternate between being grey and its natural colour? If you have supplements that have restored your hair colour, why do you let it remain grey, or alternate between grey and its natural colour?
Could you please list your 3 supplements and the dosage in a single post? I am sure many people like myself would really appreciate it.
Mahalo.
1. "Their supplement, just like others that they criticized, contains no gamma tocopherol at all! Yet their advertisement states in huge print that Life Extension Mix™ is "The Most Complete Multi-Vitamin Supplement in History". Am I missing something?" "Nor does it contain any of the Omega3 and other oils, as well as CoEnzyme CoQ10 . . "
-LE Mix doesn't contain gamma-tocopherol or the other mixed tocopherols because these compounds are in an oil base which has to be softgel encapsulated. Ditto for coQ10 and omega-3 fatty acids. Life Extension Mix is available in powder, capsules, or tablets, all dry forms, to which an oil can't be added.
2. "Not only that, but this Mix also excludes aminos such as L-glutamine and L-arginine, which other companies regard as being important for stimulating growth and immune response."
- Life Extension Mix is taken with meals, and these amino acids are usually taken on an empty stomach in order to enhance their chances of passing the blood brain barrier to help release GH. Also, not everyone can or wants to take supplemental amino acids such as these. For example, there are some people who find that taking supplemental L-arginine reactivates latent HSV infections. It is not even reasonable to assume that most people need to supplement arginine. Unlike vitamins that are usually available in suboptimal levels from the standard American diet, arginine is in a lot of foods, such as nuts, grains and meat, and is usually supplemented for specific therapeutic purposes, i.e. GH release. or for hypertension. There are a 20 other amino acids we could have added to Life Extension Mix and thousands of herbs and phytonutrients, but it would be incorrect to say that Life Extension Mix is incomplete because it doesn't contain them.
3. "Then we note that most (261mg out of 326mg) of the 'elemental' magnesium in their Mix is derived from highly insoluble (and very cheap!) magnesium oxide which is poorly absorbed by the gut. The calcium salt in their Mix is not specified, which may well indicate that is the usual cheap, poorly absorbed carbonate or oxide forms."
-Although a few studies have shown that other forms of magnesium may be better absorbed than magnesium oxide, because of the bulk of the other compounds due to their low elemental values it is difficult to put sufficient quantities in a multinutrient formula without necessitating taking more tablets, capsules or powder, something Life Extension already receives complaints concerning. One might note that most studies of magnesium which concluded that subjects have obtained benefits from the mineral have used magnesium oxide. Also, the type of calcium used in Life Extension Mix is on the label.
4. "If you read the average Life Extension Magazine and take everything there literally, you will find that you need to take in excess of something like 30 various supplements a day to stay healthy, live longer and combat virtually every illness known to humankind, at a combined cost of over $400 a month. This exceeds what the average person spends on normal food per month - is all this supplementation really necessary or even demonstrably beneficial?"
- Necessary, no, beneficial, yes, for many individuals however, there are no statements that one has to take in excess of 30 supplements per day to stay healthy and live longer. The information on various compounds and available supplements is there for your enlightenment: take it (or them!) or leave it.
5. "What is even more disturbing is that the LEF actually published an article (Redwood Anti-Aging Clinic) which referred to the "Eat Right for your Blood Type" theory of Peter Adamo as if it is a proven fact, without a single peer-reviewed or clinical reference to support their claims that each food we eat has a different effect on each one of us because of differences in blood type."
- Life Extension magazine has published hundreds of articles by different authors since its beginnings as Antiaging News in 1980. The article in question was written in 2001. In that article were a few paragraphs on the blood type diet. Although the article had other good information on other topics, Life Extension is not in agreement with the premise of the blood type diet and has replied to inquirers with the same. Furthermore, both the editor who approved the article and the author of the article are no longer working for and writing for Life Extension. Nevertheless, we do support the right of the individual to investigate and adopt this diet for themselves if they so choose, and we have had people write us who believe in the theory behind it even if we don't. - mod Post Edited By Moderator (DDye) : 4/19/2006 1:26:19 PM (GMT-4) | | Back to Top | | |
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lei.talk
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| Posted 4/24/2006 12:58 PM (GMT -5) | |
AussieDavid said...
Aloha Lei.talk.
(I live in Australia, so subscription is more expensive than for USA residents).
is there an extra shipping charge
for the supplements, also?
You say that you 'have fun' with your grey hair, yet you also talk of 'the three different supplements that accidentally restored my hair-color all worked for me - as long as I used them'. Does that mean that you let your hair alternate between being grey and its natural colour? If you have supplements that have restored your hair colour, why do you let it remain grey, or alternate between grey and its natural colour?
i do not intentionally alter my hair color.
it was incidental to my testing new supplements.
dan would receive boxes of free supplements
from companies hoping for a good review
dan gave them to me for testing.
the "fun" part of my grey hair
is two different activities -
one which is perfectly natural
and the other is twisted.
i have been taking classes
at ucsd for thirty-five years
because there are about eight thousand
lonely freshman girls there each year
and many of them felt ignored
by their fathers during their formative years.
the greyer my hair -
the more attractive they found me.
the more nefast use of my greyness
stems from my father's personality-warping
experiences in the korean war.
his post-war behavior
toward any thing weaker than him
left me with a smoldering coal of rage
that finds perverse satisfaction
with my grey hair,
i seem more vulnerable to bullies
and police assume i am the victim
when they see it - very convenient.
so, i use my grey hair
to satisfy two desires -
one healthy and one not, but,
i have that one under control.
Could you please list your 3 supplements and the dosage in a single post? I am sure many people like myself would really appreciate it.
ten drops of this in a glass of cold water
every morning on an empty stomach.
like hmb, there is no noticeable affect
unless consumed in mass quantities.
i was taking a couple of capsules
every two hours with my meals.
i have been adding five grams of powder
i have one after weight-lifting
and one after randori or particularly intense sexercise.
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BartSimpson
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| Posted 4/25/2006 2:22 PM (GMT -5) | | AssuieDavid
Any new white hair getting its original color?
Please, keep us informed. | | Back to Top | | |
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