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   Posted 8/11/2006 10:13 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
What is the optimum dose of resveratrol for gaining anti-aging benefits from it? Have any studies been done on either humans or any other animals to suggest what an appropriate dose may be?
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   Posted 8/18/2006 9:17 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bump.

There seems to be a wide ranging difference of opinion. LEF's resveratrol states on the bottle to take 20mg-40mg/day. But in Ray Kurzweil's book "Fantastic Voyage: Live Long Enough To Live Forever" he says to take 400mg a day. Thats a big difference of opinion in appropriate dosage. I'm curious if there is any good data to show what the optimum dose may in fact actually be?
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   Posted 8/19/2006 3:06 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Terry Grossman clarified it later.


NF: You recommend 400 mg/day of resveratrol yet there no studies that even remotely approach that amount (only a few clinical studies have been done). Using the most potent resveratrol-concentrated wine ever measured (25 mg/bottle)�versus the typical 1/4 mg per glass or 1.5 mg bottle�one would need to consume 15 to 267 bottle of red wine/day to get that amount of resveratrol. How can you justify that amount? Isn't there a lethal dose established for resveratrol? Independent of that, there are no studies at high levels.

TG: The problem here is one of definition and will be clarified on our website www.fantastic-voyage.net . The reservatrol we refer to in our book is resveratrol 200 mg (polygonum cuspidatum) extract (root). It is standardized to contain 20% total resveratrol or 40 mg. We recommend taking 1-2 capsules of this root (200-400 mg) as mentioned in the book, which is equivalent to 40-80 mg resveratrol.


I don't know, however, how much trans-resveratrol there is in LEF's product.
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   Posted 8/21/2006 12:47 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thats great, thanks sarlatan. That clears it up perfectly.
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   Posted 8/23/2006 3:52 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Oh, and I asked LEF about how much trans-resveratrol their product contains and was told that it is the 100% trans form.

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   Posted 8/25/2006 8:10 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Can we trust the resveratrol pills sold by VITACOST and other companies?
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   Posted 9/2/2006 6:56 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Would it be dangerous for a 56 year old woman to take 53.5mg of resveratrol daily?

Is it too much?

Thanks in advance.
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   Posted 9/7/2006 8:11 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
im curious to know what ray kurzweil thinks of people like BILL SARDI, the manufacturer of LONGEVINEX-(RESVERATROL IN AN AIRTIGHT CAPSULE FILED WITH NITROGEN TO PREVENT DEGRADATION OF TRANS-RESVERATROL TO CIS-RESVERATROL).

BILL SARDI claims that trans-resveratrol quickly degradates into cis-resveratrol by exposure to oxigen and light, and therefore only his product can have an anti-aging efect.

IM SURE IF THAT WAS TRUE KURZWEIL WOULD USE LONGEVINEX .
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   Posted 9/11/2006 1:31 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
That's what Ray thinks (from http://www.rayandterry.com/product_info.php?CatID=1&products_id=31&osCsid=9dac36b045099d54b72db55832dad8c2  burger
Proper Storage: Resveratrol is easily oxidized. However, proper storage will ensure that it does not oxidize. We use an opaque bottle to minimize light exposure. We recommend storing resveratrol in a cool, dry, place in its tightly sealed container.
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   Posted 9/11/2006 7:48 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

What do u guys think of the resveratrol pills sold outside of LEF (like VITACOST ones, for example)?

Are they equally as effective as the ones sold by LEF?

i WOULD APPRECIATE VERY MUCH IF SOMEONE ANSWERS THESE QUESTIONS. 

THANKS IN ADVANCE.


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   Posted 2/21/2007 6:03 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
BUMP
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   Posted 2/22/2007 2:27 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Sorry, I'm personally not sure of the quality of the resveratrol sold by vitacost as I don't know anything about the company. For my $$ I go with LEF as I know for certain that I'm getting a very high quality product.
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   Posted 2/22/2007 8:56 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
alfax said...
im curious to know what ray kurzweil thinks of people like BILL SARDI, the manufacturer of LONGEVINEX-(RESVERATROL IN AN AIRTIGHT CAPSULE FILED WITH NITROGEN TO PREVENT DEGRADATION OF TRANS-RESVERATROL TO CIS-RESVERATROL).

BILL SARDI claims that trans-resveratrol quickly degradates into cis-resveratrol by exposure to oxigen and light, and therefore only his product can have an anti-aging efect.

IM SURE IF THAT WAS TRUE KURZWEIL WOULD USE LONGEVINEX .
There's an article in the latest Life Extension mag that touches on this issue. It seems that scientists at Interpharma Praha (a Czechoslovack company) have shown that these concerns are not justified and resveratrol is stable for up to two years without special storage necessary.
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   Posted 2/25/2007 1:48 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
      By reading all the above I take it that Life Extensions "Resveratrol Caps 100mg", is the dose they are recommending at the aforementioned website. Since I've been taking it I have had more troulble sleeping. It seems I need less sleep and I am more high strung. Although I do feel like a bundle of energy during the day while on it lol. Anyone else's results. freaked
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   Posted 2/25/2007 1:49 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

What dosage?

The human equivalent dose for a 160-pound adult would be about 1575 milligrams of resveratrol to produce the health benefits noted in the mouse study. The reporters didn’t read the study carefully, published in Nature Magazine, which said a lower-dose (~364 milligrams for a 160-pound adult) produced similar benefits.

Furthermore, the mice were engorged with fat, 60% of their daily calorie intake. Americans once consumed about 45% of daily calories from fat (1965), but that number has dropped to about 34% (2002). So a lower amount of resveratrol, maybe half as much (~180 mg) would likely be effective.

Dr. Richard Hodes, director of the National Institute on Aging, which helped support the study, also said that people should wait for the results of safety testing. Substances that are safe and beneficial in small doses, like vitamins, sometimes prove to be harmful when taken in high doses, Dr. Hodes said.

One person who is not following this prudent advice, however, is Dr. Sinclair, the chief author of the study. He has long been taking resveratrol, though at a dose of only five milligrams per kilogram. Mice given that amount in a second feeding trial have shown similar, but less pronounced, results as those on the 24-milligram-a-day dose, he said. 

So if you weigh 200 lbs or 90.9 kilos your dose should be appx 455 mgs (500 rounded up)


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   Posted 2/25/2007 1:50 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Results of the Turquoise Killifish study

Using 157 turquoise killifish bred by an Italian drug development company, Lay Line Genomics (which funded the study and which holds the rights for commercial exploitation of this aging model), the researchers conducted experiments on the antiaging effects of resveratrol.3 Beginning when the fish reached sexual maturity at 4 weeks of age, the researchers gave them food (bloodworm larvae—yum!) that was supplemented with resveratrol at three different concentrations: 24, 120, and 600 micrograms of resveratrol per gram of food.* (A fourth group, the controls, received no resveratrol.) The fish were given defined amounts of food twice daily so that their resveratrol intake could be accurately known.

The results were astonishing: whereas all the control fish died by 12 weeks of age (as did the fish receiving the lowest dose of resveratrol), the fish receiving the two higher doses of resveratrol lived much longer. In the fish receiving 120 mcg/g of food, the median lifespan increased by 33%, and the maximum lifespan increased by 27%. In the fish receiving 600 mcg/g of food, the median and maximum lifespans increased by 56% and 59%, respectively.


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   Posted 2/25/2007 2:40 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Thats great info, thanks hormoneman!
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   Posted 2/25/2007 3:16 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
   Hormone Man, have decided how much you will take. Also how much did you say Dr. Sinclair was taking in regular MG capsules like Life Ext sales. Thanks. :-)
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   Posted 2/25/2007 3:51 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I've decided on a dose of 500mg per day - I may buy mine in powder from www.beyond-a-century.com - the cost is very low - from what I've read on the other forum - http://www.imminst.org/forum/ - Dr. Sinclair is taking either 500mg or 800mg per day - in divided doses - there are conflicting posts (I've e-mailed him and IF I get an answer I'll post it here) - also it looks like he's taking Resveratrol from Longevinex.com - hope that answers your questions


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   Posted 2/26/2007 2:01 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Also a company called www.revgenetics.com sells 500mg resveratrol capsules


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   Posted 2/26/2007 2:07 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
   Thanks Hormone Man, what do you think you can achieve at that dose that you couldn't at 100 mg? From what I can tell there are no long term studies on possible liver damage. Remember you have to add all the supplements and medications together with the resveratrol to determine liver load. Each person will be different. I think at some point the risk to reward ratio will come into play. Also just what is the reason for the hurry to increase dosage? I can't see one at this point in the game. Thanks. :-)
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   Posted 2/26/2007 2:47 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Look up the Harvard Medical Society study - the conclusion is that doses of around 500 mg per day proivide remarkable life extension results that mimic caloric restriction in its effect


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   Posted 2/27/2007 11:28 AM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
hormoneman said...
Look up the Harvard Medical Society study - the conclusion is that doses of around 500 mg per day proivide remarkable life extension results that mimic caloric restriction in its effect

One problem with supplements that use polygonum cuspidatum as the resveratrol source, may be a laxative effect at that dose, due to the emodin content.
 
I'm wondering how much I could get juicing my own organic grapes and fermenting the result...

 

Update: Looks like from this thread

http://www.imminst.org/forum/index.php?s=&act=ST&f=6&t=14124&st=0

that 98% Resveratrol might become available. 

Update2:

Here's a source:

http://www.resveratrolforhealth.com/page/specification_resveratrol_glycon.html

 

 

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   Posted 11/4/2007 9:23 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Looks like 100 mg resveratrol per serving or capsule (whatever the label claim is referring to).
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   Posted 2/1/2008 5:09 PM (GMT -5)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
I started in Jan 08 another thread on "how much Resveratrol" not knowing this was already discussed here. Therefore I feel useful to repeat here and refer to the wise judgment of LEF.

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