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Dr-Dmitri-Yuriev
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   Posted 2/1/2008 7:56 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
DDye said...
Looks like 100 mg resveratrol per serving or capsule (whatever the label claim is referring to).

There are no studies on humans, but they have done studies on mice (who share 80% of our genetic make-up) and using mathematics the doctors claim the amount they gave the mice would be equivalent to 155 mg on a 2,000 daily calorie diet (from Dr. David Sinclair's laboratory at Harvard whose results were published in the journal Nature).

I think doctors should study this supplement on Chimpanzee's instead of mice. Chimps share over 98% of our genetic make-up so I assume more accurate and precise results could be generalized to humans if those animals were studied.

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   Posted 5/27/2008 1:18 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
hormoneman said...
Look up the Harvard Medical Society study - the conclusion is that doses of around 500 mg per day proivide remarkable life extension results that mimic caloric restriction in its effect


Do you have a link for that study? Googling didn't bring up much that was helpful.
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   Posted 5/30/2008 8:04 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Dr. Sinclair, the chief author of the study. He has long been taking resveratrol, though at a dose of only five milligrams per kilogram.
So if you weigh 200lbs/2.2lbs per kilo = 454mg per day (round up to 500).
 
snavemij said...
hormoneman said...
Look up the Harvard Medical Society study - the conclusion is that doses of around 500 mg per day proivide remarkable life extension results that mimic caloric restriction in its effect


Do you have a link for that study? Googling didn't bring up much that was helpful.

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   Posted 6/8/2008 8:26 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

Interesting new study on Resveratrol mimicing CR (if problems, copy/past the link in your browser):

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0002264

The study should correspond, unless I miscalculate, to a human equivalent dose of ~28 mg/day (assuming 70kg or 154 lbs human). See also the article in LE magazine (Feb 08) which I attach.

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   Posted 6/9/2008 11:40 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Now an authoritative gene array study, conducted by researchers at the William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital and Lifegen Technologies in Madison, Wisconsin, shows that a dose of resveratrol (rez-vair-aw-trawl) ~343 milligrams per day (4.9 mg per kilogram of body weight) produces a gene activation profile similar to a calorie restricted diet.  Supra-high doses (greater than 500 milligrams) are not required and may produce side effects.
 
There is also evidence that supra-high dose resveratrol inhibits the absorption of folic acid (vitamin B9), an essential nutrient needed for DNA repair.  [European Journal Nutrition 46: 329-36, 2007] High doses have not been tested in humans for long-term use. 
 
 
 
Looks like I'll stick with 500 mgs per day for now.

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   Posted 6/17/2008 5:45 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
hormoneman said...
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Looks like I'll stick with 500 mgs per day for now.

Can you tell us since when you are supplementing with 500 mg? Thank you.
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   Posted 6/23/2008 10:39 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
The study by Lagouge M. et al, 2006 in Cell showed substantial cardiovascular and athletic results with a dose of 400 mg/kg/day. For a 160 lb human that is about 30 GRAMS a day.
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   Posted 6/23/2008 10:53 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Could you publish the link to this study
PirateJax said...
The study by Lagouge M. et al, 2006 in Cell showed substantial cardiovascular and athletic results with a dose of 400 mg/kg/day. For a 160 lb human that is about 30 GRAMS a day.


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   Posted 6/23/2008 4:14 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
hormoneman said...
Now an authoritative gene array study, conducted by researchers at the William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital and Lifegen Technologies in Madison, Wisconsin, shows that a dose of resveratrol (rez-vair-aw-trawl) ~343 milligrams per day (4.9 mg per kilogram of body weight) produces a gene activation profile similar to a calorie restricted diet.  Supra-high doses (greater than 500 milligrams) are not required and may produce side effects.
 
There is also evidence that supra-high dose resveratrol inhibits the absorption of folic acid (vitamin B9), an essential nutrient needed for DNA repair.  [European Journal Nutrition 46: 329-36, 2007] High doses have not been tested in humans for long-term use. 
 
 
 
Looks like I'll stick with 500 mgs per day for now.
Agreed.
Also see this link:
on the Longevinex web site for Bill Sardi's take on the subject of the proper extrapolation of human resveratrol doses from animal experiments.
-- Magister22
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   Posted 6/23/2008 5:27 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

The Wisconsin scientists used a dose on mice equivalent to just 35 bottles a day. But red wine contains many other resveratrol-like compounds that may also be beneficial. Taking these into account, as well as mice's higher metabolic rate, a mere four 5-ounce glasses of wine "starts getting close" to the amount of resveratrol they found effective, Weindruch said.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/04/healthscience/wine.php

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hormoneman said...
Now an authoritative gene array study, conducted by researchers at the William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital and Lifegen Technologies in Madison, Wisconsin, shows that a dose of resveratrol (rez-vair-aw-trawl) ~343 milligrams per day (4.9 mg per kilogram of body weight) produces a gene activation profile similar to a calorie restricted diet.  Supra-high doses (greater than 500 milligrams) are not required and may produce side effects.
 
There is also evidence that supra-high dose resveratrol inhibits the absorption of folic acid (vitamin B9), an essential nutrient needed for DNA repair.  [European Journal Nutrition 46: 329-36, 2007] High doses have not been tested in humans for long-term use. 
 
 
 
Looks like I'll stick with 500 mgs per day for now.
Agreed.
Also see this link:
on the Longevinex web site for Bill Sardi's take on the subject of the proper extrapolation of human resveratrol doses from animal experiments.
-- Magister22


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   Posted 12/17/2008 1:20 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

From the Longevinex site indicated above:

"Using the body surface area calculation scheme, the 343 mg suggested human dose (4.9 mg per kilogram of body weight) would convert to 27.8 mg, which suggests a much lower effective dose, not a mega-dose, requirement." 

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   Posted 12/21/2008 10:22 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
600 mg of trans resveratrol.
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   Posted 4/29/2009 10:11 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Resveratrol can boost your energy levels and give you the vigor and flexibility of youth. I Love resveratrol and these products are very effective for health. Keep posting more information about resveratrol.

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Hi, I am new to this forum. I am 53 years of age, woman. I bought Resvinex 500 on ebay, any one taking this product? Are you seeing or feeling results? After reading reviews about resveratrol I am wondering if 1000 mg is too much? Please advise. Thank You.
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   Posted 5/5/2009 11:19 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
According to the study (which I read) the dosage given to the mice was 5 mg per kilogram of weight (approximately 2 pounds). So, if you would take 5 mg times 1/2 of your weight in pounds, you would come up with the actual dose given the mice. In other words 160 lbs = 80 kilograms x 5 = 400 mg dosage. I believe this is the dosage the Dr. Sinclair and his staff are using.
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   Posted 5/26/2009 11:25 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Are there studies proving that the LEF formula of resveratrol is absorbable? I've read that it is VERY difficult to absorb resveratrol in supplements. I would like to see the studies. Thanks.

I've also read that resveratrol is both an antagonist and agonist in terms of the risks for breast cancer. I'll try to find the study if anyone is interested.
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   Posted 11/1/2009 9:45 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Might wanna rethink those high doses. In high doses Resveratrol sends a death signal (YIKES!) To heart cells.

http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0955286308001113


"Recent studies have demonstrated the cardioprotective abilities of resveratrol, a polyphenolic antioxidant present in red wine. Resveratrol can also kill cancer cells at relatively higher doses by exerting a death signal. We reasoned that resveratrol might possess the ability to protect the cells at lower doses as observed during pharmacological preconditioning of the heart, while at higher doses cause cell death as found for cancer cells. To test this hypothesis, rats were randomly fed for 14 days by gavaging any of the four doses of resveratrol — 2.5, 5.0, 25 or 50 mg/kg — while vehicle-fed animals served as placebo control. After 14 days, isolated working hearts were prepared from both experimental and control animals, and the hearts were subjected to 30-min global ischemia followed by 2 h of reperfusion. The rats fed either 2.5 or 5 mg/kg dose of resveratrol for 14 days provided cardioprotection as evidenced by improved post-ischemic ventricular recovery and reduction of myocardial infarct size and cardiomyocyte apoptosis compared to control. In contrast, the hearts fed either 25 or 50 mg/kg dose of resveratrol depressed cardiac function and increased myocardial infarct size and number of apoptotic cells. The results for Western blots and RT-PCR demonstrated an increase of protein and RNA transcripts of redox proteins including thioredoxin (Trx)-1, Trx-2, glutaredoxin (Grx)-1, Grx-2, redox factor Ref-1 as well as redox-sensitive transcription factor NFκB, and survival factors such as phosphorylated-Akt (p-Akt), and Bcl-2 in the animals fed lower doses (2.5 and 5 mg/kg) of resveratrol, while the reverse was true for the animals fed higher doses (25 and 50 mg/kg) of resveratrol. The results thus indicate that at lower doses (2.5 or 5 mg/kg), resveratrol exerts survival signal by up-regulating anti-apoptotic and redox proteins Akt and Bcl-2, while at higher doses (>25 mg/kg), it potentiates a death signal by down-regulating redox proteins and up-regulating pro-apoptotic proteins."
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   Posted 11/5/2009 8:54 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.

I've been reading everything I can find in the medical journals about resveratrol, including chasing down the references of any article on it published here at LEF.

I thought they must have figured out how to keep resveratrol active given that there are now so many resveratrol supplements on the market.  But, the medical literature is still consistent that activity of trans-resveratrol peaks at around 60 minutes because it is rapidly conjugated to a sulfate metabolite, and there is absolutely zero evidence that the metabolites have any positive benefit. So dosing doesn't matter at all if it's rapidly converted into something that has no benefit.

If someone can direct me to any research which justifies the use of a resveratrol supplement by showing it remains active for any reasonable length of time, I would very much appreciate it. And I would also direct caution about reading the claims of supplement manufacturers, including LEF.  In some of the literature reviews offered here as a way of supporting the use of their resveratrol supplements, authors will state that it was the resvertatrol that caused the effect seen in the medical study, when if you read the study itself, resveratrol was used in combination with other grape/berry antioxidant mixes, and the research authors of the medical studies indicate that it is their conclusion that the total antioxidant pool was the factor causing the outcome, not  necessarily the resveratrol. the Linus Pauling Foundation concludes the same, and they are unable to conclude that supplemental resveratrol has any efficacy.

I'd love to find a resveratrol supplement that really works, but I don't think there is one.  I think this is the reason it's taking Sirtuis [the maker of the pharma version] so long to formulate; the activity of the molecule is difficult.

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   Posted 11/9/2009 6:14 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
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I've been reading everything I can find in the medical journals about resveratrol, including chasing down the references of any article on it published here at LEF.

I thought they must have figured out how to keep resveratrol active given that there are now so many resveratrol supplements on the market. But, the medical literature is still consistent that activity of trans-resveratrol peaks at around 60 minutes because it is rapidly conjugated to a sulfate metabolite, and there is absolutely zero evidence that the metabolites have any positive benefit. So dosing doesn't matter at all if it's rapidly converted into something that has no benefit.
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If it reaches subsequent levels in the body to activate the "calorie restriction" gene, I don't think it matters if it gets metabolized into something else afterwards. Now the question is how long is the gene activated for before another dosage of resveratrol is needed.
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   Posted 12/29/2009 10:20 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
In their last book TRANSCEND, Ray Kurzweil and Terry Grossman write they are taking 2 x 50 mg of trans resveratrol per day dose.
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   Posted 1/6/2010 1:42 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Bird said...
In some of the literature reviews offered here as a way of supporting the use of their resveratrol supplements, authors will state that it was the resvertatrol that caused the effect seen in the medical study, when if you read the study itself, resveratrol was used in combination with other grape/berry antioxidant mixes, and the research authors of the medical studies indicate that it is their conclusion that the total antioxidant pool was the factor causing the outcome, not necessarily the resveratrol. the Linus Pauling Foundation concludes the same, and they are unable to conclude that supplemental resveratrol has any efficacy.


Which is why I use combination formulas...thinking that there are no long term studies on the efficacy of high doses of any supplement in humans...except maybe C or E? Better to diversify the benefit/risk ratio?

Example....resveratrol, especially when combined with other polyphenols, is known for its ability to provide the body with potent antioxidants. NOW Natural Resveratrol contains a comprehensive blend of polyphenols, including natural resveratrol and proanthocyanins (OPC's from grape seed), plus catechins (green tea extract) for powerful cardiovascular support.
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   Posted 1/6/2010 1:45 PM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Life Extension's Optimized Resveratrol also contains grape polyphenols. 
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   Posted 1/18/2010 11:32 AM (GMT -4)    Quote This PostAlert An Admin About This Post.
Hi. I take around 1 gram a day of 99% trans resveratol, some in the morning and some at night.

It is from Japanese Knott Weed and is a powder. I simply wet my finger stick it in the powder and then swill it around in my mouth until its dissolved. From what I have read the grape extract is useless.

Also by swallowing it rather than letting it absorb into your mouth it is FAR less effective.

This is what I have understood from my studies.

The problem with this stuff is that it is quite expensive and we have no idea if it's effective or not. I pay $80 for 50 G.
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Wow this is an old thread...

Google is really off today, don't people know their is a price watch thread here?

http://www.imminst.org/forum/Resveratrol-Suppliers-t36436.html
Look at current prices, and see if they have Lab analysis available.
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I don' know you but to my knowledge resveratrol rocks!
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