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scottie99
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Posted 10/31/2008 5:51 PM (GMT -4)

I am interested in the product, but it's priced high. Anyone have any experience good or bad?

Thanks.

scottie99
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Posted 11/29/2008 12:26 AM (GMT -4)

I am just finishing my second bottle and nothing, nada, zippo. The first bottle I went though as defined on the bottle: 1 capsule 2x per day. Then, seeing nothing, I bumped that to 2 capsules 2x per day. After reading a study where people were losing 20% of their bf, and 20% off their waistline, I decided to try it. What a disappointment! As far as I am concerned this is absolutely worthless for losing weight or body fat.

Ms. Minnesota
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Posted 11/30/2008 6:23 PM (GMT -4)

Hello Scottie,

I have purchased a bottle of the Integra-Lean and have only been taking it for one day. I had high hopes for this product until I read your post. I'm going to continue taking it for a month to see if I get any results. Every body is different, and maybe my metabolism is such that I will lose weight. I'm trying to keep a positive attitude about it. I will post my results in a few weeks to a month, good or bad.

scottie99
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Posted 11/30/2008 6:26 PM (GMT -4)

Despite my post I am going to keep taking it because a) I haven't gone a full 10 weeks yet and b) something this important deserves the best shot possible. I mean if this works it will obviously be a a tremendous thing for a lot of people. I am very interested in others' results so please post if you've been taking this, and I'll continue to update my results as well. For those interested, I am 47 y/o, currently at 265 lbs at an educated guess of 20% bf, eating pretty good right now and exercising multiple times per day since taking the Integra-lean.

Robert Rodriguez
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Posted 12/1/2008 11:22 AM (GMT -4)

I was going to order this but I see the study included another ingredient: Cissus quadrangularis, which is not in the LEF invergia/ integra lean. I am curious why they did not include it.

see article here: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2330043

Post Edited By Moderator (DDye) : 12/1/2008 9:26:32 AM (GMT-5)

DDye
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Posted 12/1/2008 1:34 PM (GMT -4)

According to Life Extension's advisory department:

The investigator of the combination study, Dr. Julius Oben, was convinced the Irvingia was the real active ingredient responsible for the weight loss, so he conducted another study with similar structure using only Irvingia, and got similar results.

Robert Rodriguez
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Posted 12/1/2008 2:43 PM (GMT -4)

I am thinking this product is intended for the over 40 age group and if you are younger perhaps it will not work.

scottie99 said...
I am just finishing my second bottle and nothing, nada, zippo. The first bottle I went though as defined on the bottle: 1 capsule 2x per day. Then, seeing nothing, I bumped that to 2 capsules 2x per day. After reading a study where people were losing 20% of their bf, and 20% off their waistline, I decided to try it. What a disappointment! As far as I am concerned this is absolutely worthless for losing weight or body fat.

Post Edited (Robert Rodriguez) : 12/1/2008 1:23:23 PM (GMT-5)

scottie99
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Posted 12/4/2008 3:42 PM (GMT -4)

Hi Robert.

Well I'll be 48 in February. I am still taking the Integra-lean at 2 caps, 2x/day, and still no noticible effect, or effect on the scale, much to my disappointment.

I'm now considering getting a blood glucose monitoring/measuring device to see if it's even having an effect on my blood glucose, since it's touted to do this. This should be easy enough. My gut feel, however, is it's not, since I've been known to be sensitive to low blood sugar in the past and feel nothing whatsoever from the Integra-lean.

I am stressing whether I should fork over more cash for another couple of bottles to give it the full 10 weeks and beyond. I am at around 4 weeks I believe right now. It would be easier if it wasn't priced so highly.

Scott

scottie99
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Posted 12/7/2008 10:11 PM (GMT -4)

I give up with this stuff. I am completely convinced it's having no effect on me whatsoever. Complete waste of time and money.

Rob9737
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Posted 12/9/2008 11:40 AM (GMT -4)

The research LEF cites on the supplement is based on well-designed studies BUT the N (number of people) in the studies were small so I think that we'll see many anecdotal accounts of no-effect.

I respect and appreciate the LEF organization and their mission (I am a member the organization), and they have many smart people working for them, but I think their articles, especially the one on Integra, are over-enthusiastic in regard to the benefits of supplements (especially considering that they are selling these supplements).

Ms. Minnesota
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Posted 12/9/2008 11:49 AM (GMT -4)

Hi Scottie,

I tried the Integra-Lean for a month and had NO results at all, nothing! I am not seriously overweight, just weight gain with menopause. I am 53 years old. I kept my daily calories between 1200 and 1300, as is my usual. So, I will not be purchasing another bottle of this. I'd like to know what the heck they did in this trial to make these people lose so much weight. I read the whole article sent by LEF and adhered to my low food intake each day.

gunfyter
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Posted 12/10/2008 11:58 AM (GMT -4)

What about the blood sugar and lipid values?

Has anyone taken this long enough to note any changes? I think when we see people either get results or not get results on these ... we will know if this product works.

lchernow
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Posted 12/10/2008 12:38 PM (GMT -4)

It is terribly disappointing to read all negative posts and not a single post regarding success with this product as mine just arrived tonight. I bought four bottles on the recommendation of the LEF advisor. I am going to give it a shot, because LEF does offer a money back guarantee, but my my previously high hopes are seriously dashed. I had hoped to see posts from a few users who tried this stuff and found some degree of success.

DDye
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Posted 12/10/2008 12:40 PM (GMT -4)

There are actually only two people on this thread who posted negative results.

lchernow
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Posted 12/10/2008 12:49 PM (GMT -4)

Any who have posted or written to you regarding positive results? (I'm asking about satisfied consumers; I've read the study). It would make me feel better to see a post from a consumer who was overweight and has been taking the product as directed and has achieved some fat loss with this product.

DDye
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Posted 12/10/2008 12:50 PM (GMT -4)

Contact advisory@lifeextension.com

lchernow
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Posted 12/10/2008 1:04 PM (GMT -4)

I did.

DDye
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Posted 12/10/2008 1:05 PM (GMT -4)

If you have not received a timely reply, then please call 1 800 226 2370.

LouD
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Posted 12/10/2008 8:01 PM (GMT -4)

After 5 days, I've not gained or lost anything. This is a bogus product, in my opinion.

scottie99
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Posted 12/10/2008 10:41 PM (GMT -4)

Rob9737, I agree with you.

I too am a member, for over 10 years in fact. I love a lot of their products and have recommended and got going with LEF numerous many people I know. However, with this Integra stuff they're really off the mark. As far as I am concerned I might as well have been taking water in a pill. When I saw the full 2-page ad I recently got in the mail I was like WHOA, a lot of people are going to be throwing their money away! For something like this LEF should try it themselves before going all out like that. That just isn't right and seems a little odd for LEF, given everything, imo.

Ichernow, I'd appreciate it if you could post what your experience is with Integra.

scottie99
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Posted 12/10/2008 10:53 PM (GMT -4)

Ms. Minnesota and others thanks for your input.

gunfyter
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Posted 12/11/2008 11:26 AM (GMT -4)

LouD said...
After 5 days, I've not gained or lost anything. This is a bogus product, in my opinion.

I am not ready to say that.

Given the theory: Weight loss is blocked because Leptin cannot cross the blood-brain barrier. This occurs due to high CRP levels. Irvingia reduces CRP levels, Leptin then is allowed to do its thing.

Looking at the data: Compare the charts which show the effects on Glucose, Cholesterol, LDL, CRP, Adiponectin, and Leptin.

The data-points we have are at 4 weeks, 8 weeks, and 10 weeks.

Weight Loss, as well as glucose, cholesterol, and LDL change on what appears to be a straight-line over time.

CRP, Leptin, and Adiponectin change differently. Most of the change seems to occur at the 4 week data-point... changes a little after that but flattens out.

Why is this significant? I would say that these 3 things are the agents that cause the changes in Blood glucose and lipid values.

Weight loss and glucose/lipid changes will not follow unless and until the CRP, Leptin, and Adiponectin values change. If I understand what I read in the LEF articles and the Study abstracts.

I am only on day 2, but I would not expect weight loss after 5 days on this type of product. I would expect CRP and Leptin changes.... If I get that I know weight, glucose, and Cholesterol changes will follow... If this CRP/Leptin theory is correct.

What worries me is not reports from people who are discouraged after 5 days... but the two people who have completed one month.

Worries me -- but if we look at the weight loss reported at the 4 week point in the studies. It was only an average of 8 lbs. Some people were no doubt above the average, others above the average. While these reports are not encouraging, they are still not dream killers for me yet.

I believe I fit the profile for metabolic syndrome. So if the CRP/leptin theory is correct ... I think I am a candidate to achieve results by correcting the CRP levels.

I can't believe this product would be developed and supported by LEF with the articles and ads they have produced, if they did not have confidence in the studies. I am concerned that the studies were done in Cameroon and not the US or Western Europe ... but I hope that is just an unfounded prejudice on my part.

LouD
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Posted 12/11/2008 12:51 PM (GMT -4)

"The investigator of the combination study, Dr. Julius Oben, was convinced the Irvingia was the real active ingredient responsible for the weight loss, so he conducted another study with similar structure using only Irvingia, and got similar results."

I don't see this study on PubMed. Is it on the web anywhere?

scottie99
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Posted 12/11/2008 1:43 PM (GMT -4)

I agree with you gunfyter, you can't conclude anything after 5 days.

I was on a month before I quit.

Please don't take my word for it, I actually hope to be proven wrong. Heck I'd even quadruple my dose if I was 100% sure it would work. I just don't have the $ to throw away based on what I've seen thus far.

I'm looking forward to your results gunfyter.

DDye
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Posted 12/11/2008 2:55 PM (GMT -4)

LouD said...

I don't see this study on PubMed. Is it on the web anywhere?

Clinical data was reviewed, evaluated, and validated by the scientific panel associated with the 5^th International Conference on Functional Foods for Chronic Diseases, and Dr. Oben was then granted approval for scientific conference presentation on October 17^th, 2008.>>

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