I don't disregard what you're saying but it leaves me wondering what the underlying cause is.

 

Phase 4 about to come out?

 

--ghg

 

Anyway, Optimized Irvingia is for me one of the very best LEF products probably. I wish some day a new Irvingia formula comes to light.

 

Irvingia is an amazing product for most people.

 

Lef checked my thyroid and the results came back within normal limits. Some take bioidentical hormones and I would never do that. If anything, I may have too many.  I have found that a good night's sleep is absolutely a must.  Try weighing in relation to sleep.  Your weight can drop a pound or so between 2 or 3 AM and the time you get up IF you sleep. If I am having an insomnia night, the weight does not go off and sometimes jumps up.  I sometimes lose sleep due to restless legs syndrome which I have somewhat handled with OTC products and an old fashion hot water bottle.  Then, worrying about not falling asleep (sleep anxiety) becomes a conundrum. I chant (Don't think; go to sleep) in my mind to get rid of that! For sleep aid I alternate melatonin, Tryptopure Plus, Theanine Serene and sometimes Sleep MD as needed, but not on the same night!

 

The third thing I'm doing is eating a little more protein and less sugar.We avoid all HFC's and bromated products now.

 

So far at 70 I have avoided all prescription drugs. I buy a lot of things from LEF and a few nature made products. My BP is 116/64 and my pulse runs 68-72. I feel fortunate. I do avoid doctors and their generously offered prescriptions.  I try to find alternative cures and believe in prevention. 

 

I let my weight creep up over the last ten years, but never again.

 

 

Irvingia a year and a half later

 

I still take the 'original' Irvingia, since I have a horde of it.  I take the extra 'helpers' (green tea, bladderwack, kelp, white kidney bean) to make it the equiv of Irvingia Phase 2.

 

It still works for me.. I have no appetite, but food still tastes good.

 

I lost about 100 lbs in the first year, and then weight loss stopped, but still eating very little. What happened is my metabolism went into "starvation mode," I was freezing and could take high temps well.  After about 4-5 months of holding my own, I started doing two stair climbs/day, about 6 flights.  That seems to have restarted my metabolism and the weight is going down again.

 

I also take 18/day of LEF fish oil Super Omega-3 (prod 01482).

--ghg

If something works for most people everyone would find out and the product would sell like wildfire.

 

There were sites that monitored the results of users and the results were very bad, maybe one out of ten lost some weight if that. After about 5 months the thread was dead from lack of interest and encouraging posts.

 

Here's one of the threads I was monitoring, the people here have joined together to find out how everyone else is doing on the miracle diet pill.

 

 

But I think Optimized Irvingia can be same or even better as weight loss supplement, just my opinion.

 

I wait for future opinions from people on this new LEF supplement!

Possible reason why Irvingia may not work for some: body pH. Using Irvingia for almost 2 years, since it came out. lost over 100 lbs and kept it off. need to do another 100. But just holding own. Sang Whang [ www.alkalife.com ] teaches that those over age 45 may have lower bicarbonate levels, so tissues may acidify so blood can stay slightly alkaline. He says you may need 5-7 glasses of pH 10 water per day. Test urine with pH paper, goal is to get slightly over pH 7.

You meat eaters have lots more acid than typical diet, so you need it more. Lost a pant size 5 lbs or so within two weeks after starting alkaline water. Blood triglycerides went from 69 to 122 in two weeks, suggesting stored fat being dumped into blood after stored acid was neutralized in fat cells. I just increased my LEF fish oil (super omega 3) from 18 to 21 pills/day to help counter the extra TG being dumped into the blood as the fat unloads.
–ghg