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kaypeeoh
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 3/12/2009 12:33 PM (GMT -4) |   | Using chemical to lose weight seems a bit like using meth. You're letting something external determine your life when it's really something that's within your ability.
The Zone Diet will allow weight loss, regardless of health conditions such as type2 diabetes or menapause or condition X. It's very much in line with CR, something that's been written about in LE. | | Back to Top | | |
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SlimShade
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 3/16/2009 12:18 PM (GMT -4) | | I disagree that using a dietary supplement is the same as using methamphetamines. In fact it is a down right absurd statement. People take statin drugs, blood sugar drugs, blood pressure drugs and other harmful chemicals to control medical issues when losing a little weight or taking various supplements might do the same thing. Losing the weight does become the issue to deal with first in many cases.
I gained thirty pounds living the good life, not exercising enough, and from nearing the end of my 6th decade. As recently as five years ago losing weight was never an issue. I know what I must to do to lose weight. It doesn't work any more. There is something here at play that has changed. Tell me why on earth I wouldn't try this pill even for the medical benifits (if true), or a safe sleep aid. Just maybe correcting those issues might enable me to be able to lose weight doing the things that worked for me before. I have tried this pill for almost four months. If I decide to reorder, I will take them this time along with my no white foods diet and walking. I am disappointed that I've only lost six pounds in 3.5 months. At least I did not gain any!
The Doc and people running the Zone Diet site so sell lots of supplements, too. | | Back to Top | | |
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Hi, I have had a lot of success with the Irvingia. I am a purchasing manager for a medical dispensary and I came across the product in early December. I decided to try it after I read the study and research while I was waiting to start a medically supervised diet at the beginning of January. I ended up losing 9 lbs. in 3 weeks without doing anything out of the ordinary and through the holidays.
I felt I had enough success to continue the Irvingia and did not start the other plan. Since Jan. 1st I have lost 33 lbs. It's been just under 10 weeks. I noticed a change right away and within a few days a big difference in my appetite.
For me, I started at 288 lbs. and now weigh 255 lbs. I have told others about it. I will be honest - the people that have tried it with only a small amount (under 25 lbs.), it did NOT work on them. That was 3 women of various age in the clinic. Those of us that have significant weight to lose, we have seen a positive effect. I really believe it has something to do with the leptin resistance that goes with being overweight for a long time.
Please visit my website. I have trial packs available. Thanks!
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 3/16/2009 12:35 PM (GMT -4) | | | POSITIVE RESULTS! I joined LEF in mid-December, 2008. I am a retired chemical engineer and I was impressed with the technical explanations given as to why these various formulations work. I am what may be considered morbidly obese or at the very least obese weighing when I first started on Slim Signals at about 305 lbs., height, 6' 1". My doctors, cardiologist and GP have been feeding me the same mantra , it seems like forever. "Eat less and exercise more." I started Slim Signals together with Super CLA Blend the first week in January, 2009. I'm going for my semi-annual physical tomorrow weighing 271 lbs. I have printed out a slew of LEF reports which I am bringing to him tomorrow. I can't tell you whether it's really working or whether its a placebo effect and I don't care. I've bought into the message and I'm trying to do everything recommended including not eating anything after 7 PM. Good luck to you all! | | Back to Top | | |
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 3/17/2009 11:02 AM (GMT -4) | | | A follow up on my visit to both doctors, cardiologist and GP. Both were impressed with my weight loss.I gave each printouts of various LEF articles covering products that I am now taking and several on products I'm considering using. In neither case did I receive an expected dismissal but rather they were quite interested in reading what i presented to them. I wasn't expecting this kind of open-mindedness but was pleased. | | Back to Top | | |
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SlimShade
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 3/23/2009 9:30 AM (GMT -4) | | | I decided to buy one more bottle of Integra Lean (bottle 5). I will eliminate HFCs this time. I will eat lower protein and lower saturated fat. I don't think this pill is compatible with wine, cheese, olive oil and bread, at least not in the sense of losing weight. Of course, your every day diet is not compatible with those things either. | | Back to Top | | |
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Shelldoll said...
. But I have wondered if actually mixing it in a gel cap with fuco isn't messing with the Irvingia's effectiveness. I seemed to be getting better results taking the combo separately.
Hi Shelldoll,
My husband didn't budge after 6 weeks on Slim Signals. (46 years old, 240 lbs, 5'9"; extra weight just around the middle. He lost 70+ lbs 3 years ago on low carb and exercise but wants to lose his gut.)
So I decided to give Integra Lean a whirl. We just started day before yesterday and I have Fucoxanthin Slim on order so we can start taking these separately.
The LEF site says to take the Fuco with meals x3 a day. Is this how you do it - Slim Signals 30 min - 1 hour before eating and Fucoxanthin with your meals?
Thanks, Shelldoll and anyone else who can help. | | Back to Top | | |
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 3/29/2009 10:42 PM (GMT -4) | | | I have been taking Integra Lean for 8 weeks now. Everyone's posts are a little daunting. I am beginning to lose weight. The biggest appeal for me is this is simply the only supplement that has reduced my appetite. I for the most part have no appetite, unfortunately I have had to become more aware of my H2O intake, that slacks as well. I did become aware and may gently suggest that we all become more aware of our bodies desire for food. Eat only when we are hungry and that so far as I can tell is what the benefit for the moment is with Integra Lean. Next week I will have blood work for glucose and cholesterol. I am hoping for results in that area as well. | | Back to Top | | |
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 4/20/2009 10:52 AM (GMT -4) | | | This is a followup to my March 16 post. I was 271 lbs. then. I'm now down to 263 lbs. The going is slower but I've noticed in the past when dieting that after I lose a substantial number I level off for awhile. I've added pomegranate juice to my diet. I feel the more and different kinds of antioxidants, the better the results will be. I would like to reach 240 lbs. by summer. With the lower weight. I'm beginning to walk a bit brisker. This has been a problem because of lumbar spinal stenosis. I'm hoping future weight loss will mitigate the stenosis. Good luck to all. | | Back to Top | | |
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ghg2
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Followup. Started on LEF Integra Lean Irvingia around Dec 01.
No effect for 2 weeks or so.. then appetite suppression began.
Lost 17 lbs 12/15 thru 01/15..then weight loss stopped 1/15 thru 2/15. I was also taking LEF Optimized Resveratrol (with Quercetin) and was getting higher blood pressure (140-150/70-80).
Switched to Biotivia BioForte Resveratrol, and the BP came back down... If course it could have been something else causing the high BP. Biotivia Resveratrol has no quercetin. I made that switch around 1/15... and that is about when the weight loss stopped. Reading LEF articles on the importance of quercetin in weight loss, I started up some LEF-Jarrow Quercetin 500 mg 2x/day around 2/15.. Weight started slowly coming off again. (BP has stayed in the 120's over 60-70)
On 12/15 I was 379 lbs. Today, 4/20 I weighed in at 347lbs. I got a standing ovation at the Dr office today! (lost 32lbs!)
On 12/15, I gave my Dr my copy of LEF magazine with the Irvingia on the cover. She seemed intrigued, but said "It probably will not work, because nothing has worked in the last 20 years!"
She had to eat her words today! Now, she wants me to email her all my LEF info, blogs, etc on Irvingia!
Blood work. My HS-CRP was 0.2 I think ( > 1.1 is problems, inflamation, etc). I bought a CardioChek PA blood lipid meter back in middle of march. It showed by HDL down to 23! (was 48 on 12/15). Even though Irvringia tests seem to indicate a rise in HDL.. mine was way down. I had been taking 2000 mg/day of LEF "Napalm" Niacin (fast release - crystalline) to incr HDL and immed bumped to 3000 mg.. My HDL is slowly come back to around 42. Total Chol = 142, LDL = 78, TRIG = 129.
If missing 3 days of niacin, the 1000 mg sure is "napalm", but taking one every meal, I hardly even notice it anymore.
Maybe I eat only 1/2 the food as before, so maybe why HDL dropped.
Irvingia is like having a stomach bypass in a bottle, without the knife!
--ghg
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SlimShade
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 5/11/2009 10:20 AM (GMT -4) | | I am on bottle six of Integra Lean and weigh the same thing now that I did at the beginning about the first week of December. My weight bounced up and down, but that was probably normal for me. Initially, I was a little less hungry in the evening. Now I am not hungry for lunch and usually skip it. Since taking the pill, I have become very hungry around 3 PM in the afternoon and it continues for hours until after dinner. I tried making myself eat lunch with no change. I would say so far that the pill has not worked for weight loss for me. Period.
The only reason that I am still taking the pill is that I sleep better than I have in five years and am now getting more energy. When I'm have trouble some nights falling asleep, Melatonin 4 mg at night works very well while I'm on Integra for some odd reason. Basically my sleep issue is solved and that is important. Without regular sleep I think weight loss will not happen, because you have no energy and get the munchies. My sleep issue started when I quit smoking and I was not a night smoker either. It must be a neurotransmitter thing. The only other thing that I take when needed is an OTC called Restless Legs Relief. The minute I feel any leg sensation I take one of those.
So, I've decided to forget that this is a weight loss pill and go on a real diet and exercise plan. I'll be taking the Integra Lean twice a day for sleep! I need to get rid of 30 pounds which is mostly high stomach and love handles. Very disgusting and depressing. | | Back to Top | | |
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ghg2
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Just received my June 2009 LEF magazine. The whole issue is devoted to Irvingia,
causes of obesity,why Irvingia works for some people and not others, and what can be done about it.
LEF now has a new product, "Enhanced Irvingia" (two pills per dose), but it is still
150 mg Irvingia (same as the original), but with more stuff added to help out the Irvingia. They added white kidney bean extract, seaweed (kelp+bladderwrack?) extract, and green tea extract (polyphenols). Put in an order for 4 bottles last night.
Maybe the reason I had a good rate of loss in the beginning 2 months was that I was taking LEF "Mega green tea extract". I put that on hold in Jan, since I had a bunch of LEF "super polyphenols" (from grape and apple extracts) and wanted to
use that up.. Just figured the polyphenols were for antioxident...until last night
when I read the June LEF magazine..that green tea extract was one of the added
components of "enhanced irvingia"..
about the time when I switched from Green Tea extract to grape/apple extract is
when the weight loss slowed down. Switched back to the green tea this morn.
THanks for fitting in some more pieces of the puzzle
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SlimShade
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 5/14/2009 5:33 PM (GMT -4) | | | The price of the new product is unbelievably high. I lost one pound just thinking about it. | | Back to Top | | |
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PhotonWave
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 5/20/2009 10:02 AM (GMT -4) | | | I've been reading LEF's words about the new Enhanced Integra Lean. Currently I'm using Slim Signals and Mega Green Tea extract. So far they seem to be working for me. I wonder whether LEF is recommending switching from the two previous products to the single Enhanced Integra. What about Fucoxanthin? Why isn't that included with the Enhanced Integra? Or are we to but the Fucoxanthin in addition? I'm starting to run out of Slim Signals so I'm raising these questions. I guess it's time to dial up my friendly LEF consultant. Just thought I'd share my thoughts with you. | | Back to Top | | |
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 5/25/2009 9:33 PM (GMT -4) | | DDye,
I must know, in the AS WE SEE IT artlicle in June's edition of the magazine...what did William Faloon do for his skin?? He looks at least 15 years younger than the December 2007 photo. Is it a new combo of supplements, a new face lotion, or did he have injections, surgery or laser work done? I must know so when my skin starts losing it elasticity and getting wrinkles or forehead furrows I can follow his protocol. All I can say is WOW, he looks fantastic! Everything around his eyes looks fresh and young and his forehead and cheeks are so smooth! I would greatly appreciate if you could post his face regimen...thanks in advance.
LadyBookNut,
Yes, that is how I take the combination. I and three friends took SlimSignals faithfully and saw no results. I just think mixing Fuco liquigel with powdered Irvingia may have caused the active ingredients in both products to become ineffective.
I was happy to see a couple of my past talking points in the new magazine about taking enzymes with amylase in them and the Western diet being so different than the Cameroon diet. I was thrilled to see they reformulated a new combo, however I'm a little confused. We've already established that Irvingia does NOT work with a low carb diet so why was the white kidney bean extract been added to block carbs?
I have personally found Integra Lean does NOT work under high stress conditions although it helps to just maintain your weight loss. I would equate this to having elevated cortisol levels. Another thing we have to look at is the American stress levels compared to that of the Cameroonians. Right after I took the Amylase and saw it stopped my weight loss dead in its tracks, I quit taking it. But then things started taking a turn with my online business because of ONE nut job client along with my Son getting in a bit of trouble with the law and finding out my Step Mom of 27 years has cancer and our basement flooding...all in that order! Its just been too much on my plate and though my eating habits became less scheduled, I wasn't taking in more calories but less and gained weight back when I quit Irvingia for a few weeks. I've been back on the Integra Lean and Fuco and it stopped my gain dead in its tracks also, but I'm NOT losing due to it not being able to offset the high levels of cortisol from the stress.
I have Natural Stress Relief from LEF, but there is no information on if it reduces cortisol levels. I agree with adding Green Tea, and iodine, but the jury is out on the white kidney bean extract and the InSea. I think for now I will stick to the IntegraLean and Fuco and add something to handle my cortisol and stress levels and report back in a couple weeks. I'll check in to see if anyone is having good results with the new Enhanced Irvingia. So now you know why I haven't been on the forums for awhile...too many irons in the fire! I haven't had a chance to read back, but this page shows lots of promising results. PLEASE LEAVE THE INTEGRALEAN JUST AS IT IS!
Sincerely,
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 5/26/2009 10:18 AM (GMT -4) | | DDye,
Well, when you get around him next time, tell him Shelldoll wants to know;) He looks at least 15 years younger in the after picture than the before one taken just 2 years earlier! I'm sure he won't take offense to such a compliment.
Do you have any suggestions on what I can add to my IntregraLean/Fuco regimen that would reduce cortisol? I know ashwagandha works but only up to 26% reduction, and Sensoril but no numbers are in the product description for Cognitex, these were also listed in an LEF article: phosphatidylserine, DHEA, and ginkgo biloba. But I'm thinking Relora looks to be the best alternative?
Please let me know what you think would be best to lower cortisol to take in conjunction with IntegraLen and Fuco.
Thanks!
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 5/26/2009 11:05 AM (GMT -4) | | DDye,
You are right...its how you see things and react to them. I try to keep telling myself everything happens for a reason and usually trying times have a hidden blessing if you search for it, wait for it or as you said view it with an open mind. Often times seemingly unaswered prayers turned out to be tiny miracles when one looks back with an open mind. I love yoga and will have to focus my energy into making time for it in my schedule. But also comes the old addage that sometimes its easier said than done. Thanks DDye. I'm going to add some of the above supplements to help my body counteract the stress in the meantime and I'll report back if it helped the Irvingia and myself kick back into weight loss mode. I think I really need to have my estrogen levels checked too that may be playing a hidden role in my health.
Have a great day!
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 5/26/2009 11:24 AM (GMT -4) | | Shelldoll you have added to my thoughts on the subject in a great way.
By asking oneself what one might value in being stressed, my intent was to ask whether there was something in being stressed itself that one somehow valued, i.e., does it make us feel important that we are busy or needed? Does it validate our long list of complaints about what or who is wrong in our lives? Many people are not open minded enough to recognize these things about themselves. Or, if one is convinced that one knows it all, or if one's pretensions of such are threatened by such questions, then any attempt to help relieve the situation will be met with resentment or dismissal.
But you are right in that the "stressful" situation itself may hold something of true value, and by recognizing that, we are able to feel happiness or peace.
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 5/26/2009 11:24 AM (GMT -4) | | "(I must know, in the AS WE SEE IT artlicle in June's edition of the magazine...what did William Faloon do for his skin?? He looks at least 15 years younger than the December 2007 photo. )"
Regarding the above quote, I'm a bit of a cynic. William Faloon does not look younger or older. He does not look 20 pounds thinner as he stated in his article. His hair style, suit, pose, location of photo, are EXACTLY the same - with the exception that his tie is a tiny bit different or at a different angle. Looking at the two photos, I would have assumed they were taken exactly at the same time. I'm not accusing anything . . . .but take a look everyone at the before and after photo of Faloon in the June magazine. And again, he does not look 20 pounds thinner.
So far I have lost nothing from Irvingia. I started a few months ago. However, I'm getting blood work done next month so I will see if my glucose and lipids change.
I agree with the contradiction stated by Shelldoll on how Irvingia works: "We've already established that Irvingia does NOT work with a low carb diet so why was the white kidney bean extract been added to block carbs? " If you need carbs for the product to work, why block them? Could someone respond to that question? Thanks. | | Back to Top | | |
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| Missing Key Value : en-US, 641 5/26/2009 5:06 PM (GMT -4) | | Lol, really interesting this question by rosebud: "We've already established that Irvingia does NOT work with a low carb diet so why was the white kidney bean extract been added to block carbs? " If you need carbs for the product to work, why block them? Could someone respond to that question?
I am now taking for a week 2 pills a week of original Irvingia. I have less hunger, probably I have lost 1 lb, but no much more I believe. Anyway, I am not fat, I go on Zone Diet years ago. | | Back to Top | | |
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