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adams479
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Posted 12/17/2007 10:54 AM (GMT -5)

I have been suffering from urticaria for the past 6 to 7 months and one of my friends told me this disease name after hearing the symptoms. I am suffering from the itchy rashes almost on all parts of the body, severely on hands and legs. In the initial stages these rashes are not itchy but after a few days the itching becomes severe. Sometimes swelling of the lips also occurs. Most of the time these rashes starts in the evening and they starts disappearing after some hours. I am a pure vegetarian and I don’t have habits like smoking and drinking. Whenever these rashes started I used to take Avil or Cetrizine (antiallergy pills). I am really bothered about my situation. Once I have taken English medicine, but that was of no use. After few days, I went to a homeopathic clinic after I started using the medicine I never faced the problem for the next two months. But after a few days they started again and with full intensity. I am continuing the same medicines but they are not showing any effect. Let me know whether this disease is curable or not. I will be grateful for your suggestion. Thanks!

DDye
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Posted 12/17/2007 10:55 AM (GMT -5)

What did your doctor say about it?

Randy Grover
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Posted 12/17/2007 4:09 PM (GMT -5)

Try increasing intracellular glutathione.

"Patients with Allergic and Irritant Contact Dermatitis are Characterized by Striking Change of Iron and Oxidized Glutathione Status in Nonlesional Area of the Skin"

http://www.nature.com/jid/journal/v116/n6/full/5601090a.html

It can't hurt.

Randy Grover

carol z
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Posted 12/18/2007 11:45 AM (GMT -5)

From March 2003 Nutrition & Healing (Jonathan V Wright's newsletter):

...strong association between Helicobacter and an allergic skin condition called chronic urticaria, and eliminating it has resulted in clinical improvement in 73 percent of patients...

Wedi B, Kapp A. “Helicobacter pylori infection in skin diseases: a critical appraisal.” Am J Clin Dermatol 2002; 3(4): 273-282

ingol
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Posted 12/18/2007 12:05 PM (GMT -5)

I would suggest that first of all you just stop taking the medicines by the advice of your Homeopath as they are not helping. Here is one very useful option called health pads. I used it when I was in the same situation. After using health pads, I felt my body so much better and lighter. Health Pads, also commonly known as footpads or Detox Pads available at http://www.healthpads.com that help to relieve fatigue, joint pain, headaches, skin rashes and many other health problems. But be sure to see a physician before that. I hope that this will work out for you because it contains natural ingredients. Take care, Bye!

George D.
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Posted 2/7/2008 11:08 AM (GMT -5)

If you are vegetarian you may not get enough cysteine to make adequate glutathione (NAC, B6), or enough protein to bind bilirubin from normal haemolysis (whey). If selenium is also low reduced immune function may be letting immune complexes embed in skin from who knows what dietary or other allergen. Papain type digestive enzymes might also help reduce dietary allergens.

George D.
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Posted 2/10/2008 8:58 PM (GMT -5)

I have had this problem for the past 3 years, it is totally due in my case to hot, humid climate. No supplements seem to help but it has become far less intense over time so the anti-inflammatory supplements I take for HCV may be helping (l-methionine, n-3 EFAs, choline etc); in fact, now I remember, it only came up this year when I stopped taking high-dose choline (nutra life suoer fat mobiliser; 1 gram L-methionine, choline and inositol in 3 pills, plus 20 mg B6, 150 mg carnitine, some b12). So I will try those again and see if it changes. Choline may help stop the chain reaction of cell damage and release of cytokines.

But what I am sure really helps is ICE. In my case it is heat related - and if I put an iceblock on an itch as soon as I notice it, and hold it there till it hurts or the ice block melts, it will not develop to a head (usually, even if I do not scratch, a lesion develops in the centre) and will become just a mild lump. The lump will last but will not become a full-fledged hive. Now, mine is definitely heat-related, but it may well work in your case even if it is not, by stopping the inflammatory process.

My hives only ever occur on the left side of my body; they may have been all over at first, but recently it's left side only.

I consider antihistamines are not worth the yucky side effects and risk of ventricular fibrillation (torsades des pointes) this could be what killed Heath Ledger.

ICE is the cure most worth a try. I'll let you know what choline/inositol/L-methionine does.

George D.
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Posted 2/28/2008 7:07 PM (GMT -5)

Yes - there definitely is a link with cysteine, methionine, and choline. I take these supplements for hep C. They did not prevent me developing hives when I moved to a hot humid climate, but I quickly adapted to a lower intensity; fewer and smaller hives each summer.

When I changed from an L-methionine plus choline plus inositol supplement (Vita-Life's Super Fat Mobiliser) to L-methionine alone my uticaria returned at medium intensity on my left hand side. When I ran out of L-methionine and multi-vitamin/mineral powder, it became more intense and extended to my right hand side. When I again supplemented Super Fat Mobiliser and multi-powder it became very mild indeed within a matter of days. I am also now supplementing alpha-lipoic acid, which increases cellular uptake of cysteine.

I am taking these for Hep C, and utricaria/hives is just a side issue. I believe that these supplements decrease some irritants: histamine (methionine, niacinamide, calcium and magnesium), bilirubin (vitamin E, choline, methionine, B12, folate), food allergen immune complexes (selenium, methionine, glutamine, digestive enzymes), environmental toxins (cysteine, B6, selenium, glutamine).

And then there is the inflammatory - antiinflammatory balance; fish oil EFAs and vitamin D are needed to counterbalance the prostaglandins from omega 6 EFAs; you need a 1:1 - 1:2 ratio of omega 3 to omega 6. Prostaglandins may be part of the swelling reaction; but any underlying inflammatory condition will not help.
Bromelain and papain may be a good place to start; better than cutting out foods that should not BE problematic.

Mother Margaret
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Posted 3/29/2008 7:55 PM (GMT -5)

I would start noticing what is going on around you when the rashes start up.

It is probably a chemical exposure of some kind - not dietary

http://www.valdezlink.com/pages/too_much_chemicals.htm

I notice that the chemical I use that causes rashes in me is a chemical frequently found in cleaning products: 2-butoxyethanol

But then, the same rash reappeared once when taking glucophage for diabetes. I decided my body didn't like medications like that, and stopped taking it after 6 weeks.

I don't have THE FATIGUE of this chemical ...

But for those who develop serious CFIDS, FM, CFS type symptoms, they would.

The anemia is not generally found by doctors.

The group of workers who could 'help our nation' in answers to these type of health concerns.

oscarguy
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Posted 4/7/2008 10:06 AM (GMT -5)

It sounds in some ways syptomatic of poison ivy. Did you move recently or are for any reason exposing yourself to some new eviromental entities ? ...Oscar

jenny miller
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Posted 4/9/2008 9:28 AM (GMT -5)

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George D.
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Posted 4/14/2008 9:51 AM (GMT -5)

Once again I find that the hives get worse when I stop taking the methionine - choline - inositol and go away once with a few days of starting again. And they are definitely heat-related. At first I removed every chemical (detergent, soap) one by one, and checked various foods, like tomatoes, with no luck. Heat seems to be cause. But regardless of the cause, it's obvious that certain nutrients play a role in controlling the effect; and in this case they are methylation factors; which is consistent with the role methylation factors play in syndromes like hay fever; perhaps they play a role in metabolising histamine. Given that I can't find the trigger (or, being heat, its unavoidable) and I need the methylation factors anyway, it's an acceptable solution.

CLAY
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Posted 5/5/2008 7:06 PM (GMT -5)

You need to get on alkaline/ionized water. There are external and internal applications. No promises, but it sounds like you really need to go down the checklist of options. This is one of them.

(if you want to know more, please contact me at claysmail@sbcglobal.net)

George D.
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Posted 8/12/2008 6:14 PM (GMT -5)

There is a siginificant correlation between Candida overgrowth and utricaria/hives. And as I've had intestinal candidosis before, and it has reappeared, it's likely that Candida was the culprit all along. The hives first appeared when I moved from a cold climate to a hot, humid climate, in which molds flourish and juices ferment quickly.

I will be starting on Nystatin, it'll be interesting to see whether this cuts out the hives next summer. In Crook's The Yeast Connection there are many case studies in which Candida was associated with hives which disappeared after treatment. Candida causes chemical sensitivity; the hives could be due to toxins from the yeast, or caused by allergy to molds or chemicals sensitised by antibodies to Candida or Candida toxins.

Candida is very common - everyone has some, it is an opportunistic infection taking advantage of dysbiosis (from antibiotics and processed foods), low immunity (from HIV, hepatitis, etc), hormonal changes (pregnancy, the pill).
Anti-candida treatments such as nystatin or capryilic acid are not toxic, and often the only way of diagnosing the syndrome is by treating it. Probiotics also help. Propolis, taheebo tea, raw garlic, onions and cruciferous vegetables also have significant anti-Candida activity.

There are usually other symptoms besides hives, but we tend to accept them over time, so it is a very sneaky, occult problem that is still under-diagnosed. If interested, I recommend The Yeast Connection by Crook.

Connie Marie
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Posted 12/26/2008 7:02 PM (GMT -5)

Go back to your homeopathic clinic and let them update your formula. Getting well for two month changed your body chemistry...you did get well...try them again.

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