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   |  albedo Registered Member
       Date Joined Jan 2008 Total Posts : 664 | Posted 6/8/2008 7:26 PM (GMT -5) |   | | | |
   |  PirateJax Registered Member
       Date Joined Jun 2008 Total Posts : 4 | Posted 6/23/2008 9:39 AM (GMT -5) |   | | The study by Lagouge M. et al, 2006 in Cell showed substantial cardiovascular and athletic results with a dose of 400 mg/kg/day. For a 160 lb human that is about 30 GRAMS a day. | | Back to Top | | |
  |  Magister22 Registered Member
       Date Joined Aug 2005 Total Posts : 65 | Posted 6/23/2008 3:14 PM (GMT -5) |   |
hormoneman said... Now an authoritative gene array study, conducted by researchers at the William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital and Lifegen Technologies in Madison, Wisconsin, shows that a dose of resveratrol (rez-vair-aw-trawl) ~343 milligrams per day (4.9 mg per kilogram of body weight) produces a gene activation profile similar to a calorie restricted diet. Supra-high doses (greater than 500 milligrams) are not required and may produce side effects.
There is also evidence that supra-high dose resveratrol inhibits the absorption of folic acid (vitamin B9), an essential nutrient needed for DNA repair. [European Journal Nutrition 46: 329-36, 2007] High doses have not been tested in humans for long-term use.
Looks like I'll stick with 500 mgs per day for now.
Agreed.
Also see this link:
on the Longevinex web site for Bill Sardi's take on the subject of the proper extrapolation of human resveratrol doses from animal experiments.
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 |  Hormoneman Respected Member
       Date Joined May 2006 Total Posts : 2578 | Posted 6/23/2008 4:27 PM (GMT -5) |   |
The Wisconsin scientists used a dose on mice equivalent to just 35 bottles a day. But red wine contains many other resveratrol-like compounds that may also be beneficial. Taking these into account, as well as mice's higher metabolic rate, a mere four 5-ounce glasses of wine "starts getting close" to the amount of resveratrol they found effective, Weindruch said.
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/06/04/healthscience/wine.php
Magister22 said...
hormoneman said... Now an authoritative gene array study, conducted by researchers at the William S. Middleton Memorial Veterans Hospital and Lifegen Technologies in Madison, Wisconsin, shows that a dose of resveratrol (rez-vair-aw-trawl) ~343 milligrams per day (4.9 mg per kilogram of body weight) produces a gene activation profile similar to a calorie restricted diet. Supra-high doses (greater than 500 milligrams) are not required and may produce side effects.
There is also evidence that supra-high dose resveratrol inhibits the absorption of folic acid (vitamin B9), an essential nutrient needed for DNA repair. [European Journal Nutrition 46: 329-36, 2007] High doses have not been tested in humans for long-term use.
Looks like I'll stick with 500 mgs per day for now.
Agreed.
Also see this link:
on the Longevinex web site for Bill Sardi's take on the subject of the proper extrapolation of human resveratrol doses from animal experiments.
-- Magister22 Hormoneman | | Back to Top | | |
  |  sunfiregod Registered Member
       Date Joined Oct 2008 Total Posts : 91 | Posted 12/21/2008 9:22 PM (GMT -5) |   | | | |
  |  MonaLisa913 Registered Member
       Date Joined Apr 2009 Total Posts : 7 | Posted 4/30/2009 10:26 AM (GMT -5) |   | | Hi, I am new to this forum. I am 53 years of age, woman. I bought Resvinex 500 on ebay, any one taking this product? Are you seeing or feeling results? After reading reviews about resveratrol I am wondering if 1000 mg is too much? Please advise. Thank You. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  pammyfour Registered Member
       Date Joined May 2009 Total Posts : 4 | Posted 5/5/2009 10:19 AM (GMT -5) |   | | According to the study (which I read) the dosage given to the mice was 5 mg per kilogram of weight (approximately 2 pounds). So, if you would take 5 mg times 1/2 of your weight in pounds, you would come up with the actual dose given the mice. In other words 160 lbs = 80 kilograms x 5 = 400 mg dosage. I believe this is the dosage the Dr. Sinclair and his staff are using. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  rosebud Registered Member
       Date Joined Dec 2008 Total Posts : 16 | Posted 5/26/2009 10:25 AM (GMT -5) |   | Are there studies proving that the LEF formula of resveratrol is absorbable? I've read that it is VERY difficult to absorb resveratrol in supplements. I would like to see the studies. Thanks.
I've also read that resveratrol is both an antagonist and agonist in terms of the risks for breast cancer. I'll try to find the study if anyone is interested. | | Back to Top | | |
 |  xanthos Registered Member
       Date Joined Oct 2009 Total Posts : 4 | Posted 11/1/2009 8:45 PM (GMT -5) |   | Might wanna rethink those high doses. In high doses Resveratrol sends a death signal (YIKES!) To heart cells.
http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0955286308001113
"Recent studies have demonstrated the cardioprotective abilities of resveratrol, a polyphenolic antioxidant present in red wine. Resveratrol can also kill cancer cells at relatively higher doses by exerting a death signal. We reasoned that resveratrol might possess the ability to protect the cells at lower doses as observed during pharmacological preconditioning of the heart, while at higher doses cause cell death as found for cancer cells. To test this hypothesis, rats were randomly fed for 14 days by gavaging any of the four doses of resveratrol — 2.5, 5.0, 25 or 50 mg/kg — while vehicle-fed animals served as placebo control. After 14 days, isolated working hearts were prepared from both experimental and control animals, and the hearts were subjected to 30-min global ischemia followed by 2 h of reperfusion. The rats fed either 2.5 or 5 mg/kg dose of resveratrol for 14 days provided cardioprotection as evidenced by improved post-ischemic ventricular recovery and reduction of myocardial infarct size and cardiomyocyte apoptosis compared to control. In contrast, the hearts fed either 25 or 50 mg/kg dose of resveratrol depressed cardiac function and increased myocardial infarct size and number of apoptotic cells. The results for Western blots and RT-PCR demonstrated an increase of protein and RNA transcripts of redox proteins including thioredoxin (Trx)-1, Trx-2, glutaredoxin (Grx)-1, Grx-2, redox factor Ref-1 as well as redox-sensitive transcription factor NFκB, and survival factors such as phosphorylated-Akt (p-Akt), and Bcl-2 in the animals fed lower doses (2.5 and 5 mg/kg) of resveratrol, while the reverse was true for the animals fed higher doses (25 and 50 mg/kg) of resveratrol. The results thus indicate that at lower doses (2.5 or 5 mg/kg), resveratrol exerts survival signal by up-regulating anti-apoptotic and redox proteins Akt and Bcl-2, while at higher doses (>25 mg/kg), it potentiates a death signal by down-regulating redox proteins and up-regulating pro-apoptotic proteins." | | Back to Top | | |
 |  Bird Registered Member
       Date Joined Jun 2008 Total Posts : 34 | Posted 11/5/2009 7:54 PM (GMT -5) |   | |
I've been reading everything I can find in the medical journals about resveratrol, including chasing down the references of any article on it published here at LEF.
I thought they must have figured out how to keep resveratrol active given that there are now so many resveratrol supplements on the market. But, the medical literature is still consistent that activity of trans-resveratrol peaks at around 60 minutes because it is rapidly conjugated to a sulfate metabolite, and there is absolutely zero evidence that the metabolites have any positive benefit. So dosing doesn't matter at all if it's rapidly converted into something that has no benefit.
If someone can direct me to any research which justifies the use of a resveratrol supplement by showing it remains active for any reasonable length of time, I would very much appreciate it. And I would also direct caution about reading the claims of supplement manufacturers, including LEF. In some of the literature reviews offered here as a way of supporting the use of their resveratrol supplements, authors will state that it was the resvertatrol that caused the effect seen in the medical study, when if you read the study itself, resveratrol was used in combination with other grape/berry antioxidant mixes, and the research authors of the medical studies indicate that it is their conclusion that the total antioxidant pool was the factor causing the outcome, not necessarily the resveratrol. the Linus Pauling Foundation concludes the same, and they are unable to conclude that supplemental resveratrol has any efficacy.
I'd love to find a resveratrol supplement that really works, but I don't think there is one. I think this is the reason it's taking Sirtuis [the maker of the pharma version] so long to formulate; the activity of the molecule is difficult.
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